The Deeper Into Movies Podcast
Oct 19, 2026 · 1 hr 21 min · 11 segments
Composer Kali Malone, whose hypnotic, slow-moving compositions have made her one of the most fascinating voices in contemporary experimental music. We trace her journey from an unsupervised teenage…
Kali MaloneGuest
Steven T. HanleyHost
So if I'm right with your origin story, you went in initially as a trainee for fixing organs or tuning or-
We're missing, like... 'Cause I was already probably, uh, like 22 or something when that happened.
So I, the, those first four years in Stockholm, I was, um, making a lot of electronic music and in the whole f- like free, free improv and free jazz scene there, which is amazing.
Stockholm has a super old electroacoustic history as well, um, and, uh, state-funded studios with historical instruments and, like, 24-hour access.
It's like the, the, there's some still some really incredible remnants of, like, the socialist culture, uh, yeah, culture there, where you have, um, you know, artist-run venues that can exist that, that have, are 80-plus-years old, um, not, not like in most countries where they just last for a couple years before they get, you know, demolished and turned-
Um, so that, it, it was during that, that period that I first developed, like, all of the musical [laughs] impressions and-
And then I started studying after I got my visa, so I could go to school for free.
And then, um, and then it was quite later down the line that the organ practice started.
But I was already m- making some tapes and, uh, trading tapes with people of like very c- my rudimentary caveman coding synthesis [laughs] music, which is basically the same-
I, I can revisit that music and see that I'm quite obsessed with the same structures.
pockmarks.When we're talking about, like, the bands like Health and Dan Deacon, that got me super nostalgic, 'cause I remember talking to Haxan Cloak, 'cause we- we're the same age and both- both grew up in the UK listening to the same stuff.
So if I'm right with your origin story, you went in initially as a trainee for fixing organs or tuning or-
We're missing, like... 'Cause I was already probably, uh, like 22 or something when that happened.
So I, the, those first four years in Stockholm, I was, um, making a lot of electronic music and in the whole f- like free, free improv and free jazz scene there, which is amazing.
Stockholm has a super old electroacoustic history as well, um, and, uh, state-funded studios with historical instruments and, like, 24-hour access.
It's like the, the, there's some still some really incredible remnants of, like, the socialist culture, uh, yeah, culture there, where you have, um, you know, artist-run venues that can exist that, that have, are 80-plus-years old, um, not, not like in most countries where they just last for a couple years before they get, you know, demolished and turned-
Um, so that, it, it was during that, that period that I first developed, like, all of the musical [laughs] impressions and-
And then I started studying after I got my visa, so I could go to school for free.
And then, um, and then it was quite later down the line that the organ practice started.
But I was already m- making some tapes and, uh, trading tapes with people of like very c- my rudimentary caveman coding synthesis [laughs] music, which is basically the same-
I, I can revisit that music and see that I'm quite obsessed with the same structures.
pockmarks.When we're talking about, like, the bands like Health and Dan Deacon, that got me super nostalgic, 'cause I remember talking to Haxan Cloak, 'cause we- we're the same age and both- both grew up in the UK listening to the same stuff.
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