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"They told me to my face: you can't play straight people." And then he played a heterosexual plantation owner in one of the most talked-about films of the decade.
In this episode I sit down with actor and comedian Jason Stuart, who grew up in Los Angeles surrounded by the business, knew he was an actor before he was anything else, and spent years being told to stay in his lane.
We get into his Jewish identity and what it meant to him to watch Barbra Streisand refuse to hide who she was, the weight he carries as the son of a Holocaust survivor like the man in "The Pianist," and how comedy became his way through it all, from a kid doing Lucille Ball impressions in a play to the Star Search stage.
Jason opens up about the decision that changed everything: coming out as gay publicly in 1993 on Geraldo, in an episode called "Unconventional Comedians," what it cost him in an industry that wasn't ready, and the relentless work ethic his father taught him that kept him going when the doors stayed shut.
We talk about the role that rewrote his career, playing a white heterosexual plantation owner in Nate Parker's "The Birth of a Nation," the meeting in a Savannah parking lot that he'll never forget, and how that experience moved him so deeply it inspired his own film, "Redlining," a story about generational wealth, segregation, and the communities America walled off from one another.
This one is funny, it's raw, and it goes places I genuinely didn't expect. Thanks for being here, I think you're going to love him as much as I did.
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00:00 The Wild Cold Open
00:54 Jason on Ann Coulter & Rage-Baiting
02:16 "I'm an Actor First": Streisand & Identity
03:06 Son of a Holocaust Survivor
04:06 Comedy Origins: Lucille Ball & a Parks Play
04:51 The Best Actors of All Time
05:35 Sponsor Break: Health Supplement
06:29 Growing Up in Hollywood's Fairfax District
07:33 Star Search & "You Can't Play Straight People"
08:11 Coming Out on Geraldo in 1993
09:50 The "Birth of a Nation" Breakthrough
13:27 Becoming a Plantation Owner On Screen
14:18 "Redlining": Generational Wealth & Segregation
16:49 Closing Reflections & Redlining's Festival Run