The Building Resilient Kids Podcast
Jul 30, 2026 · 58 min · 13 segments
"Our Kids Should Fight to Be Happy: Why Resilience May Be the Foundation of a Flourishing Life" In this thought-provoking episode of *Building Resilient Kids*, host Tim Curtis is joined by former…
Ben PronkGuest
Tim CurtisHost
the question, what is happiness? I think this is the question, and it's a really important one to get clear in your own head because I think if you don't actively think about it – then you can get dragged in some directions that say happiness on the cover but don't actually lead to a good life or ongoing well-being.

It is about having some kind of goal, something that you're working towards, something that gives you what the Greeks would call eudaimonia, thriving or flourishing, and gives you that challenge and that sort of purpose in your life.

The paradox with that is that often that's not that pleasant at the time, as we spoke about in the resilient shield, you know.

We're so focused on... work or the goal or whatever it is that we miss a lot of the beautiful little moments in life.

And so this starts tapping across into just enjoying the special moments, you know, being present, being mindful, being engaged with people like your family, with your loved ones.

If resilience varies by degree and not kind, which is what we've always said and Building Resilient Kids tried to work out, well, how do we contextualize it for our toddlers, waddlers, tweens and teens? Pleasure and purpose as components of happiness, does that vary by degree, not kind? Is that relevant to our kids as well, the pleasure-purpose combination? Yeah.

to do in We're All Going to Die is look at this idea of happiness from a bunch of different perspectives.

I started with some of the real key philosophies and some of the philosophical takes going back two and a half thousand odd years ago, which is when humans, certainly in the West, started to think about this idea of happiness.

And looking at those kind of things, you know, the concepts of eudaimonia, which Aristotle championed and the Stoics really sort of pushed forward this purpose, this sort of striving, this goal.

But counterpointing that with things like hedonism and Epicureanism, which is much more focused on the pleasure or the avoidance of pain and so forth.

the question, what is happiness? I think this is the question, and it's a really important one to get clear in your own head because I think if you don't actively think about it – then you can get dragged in some directions that say happiness on the cover but don't actually lead to a good life or ongoing well-being.

It is about having some kind of goal, something that you're working towards, something that gives you what the Greeks would call eudaimonia, thriving or flourishing, and gives you that challenge and that sort of purpose in your life.

The paradox with that is that often that's not that pleasant at the time, as we spoke about in the resilient shield, you know.

We're so focused on... work or the goal or whatever it is that we miss a lot of the beautiful little moments in life.

And so this starts tapping across into just enjoying the special moments, you know, being present, being mindful, being engaged with people like your family, with your loved ones.

If resilience varies by degree and not kind, which is what we've always said and Building Resilient Kids tried to work out, well, how do we contextualize it for our toddlers, waddlers, tweens and teens? Pleasure and purpose as components of happiness, does that vary by degree, not kind? Is that relevant to our kids as well, the pleasure-purpose combination? Yeah.

to do in We're All Going to Die is look at this idea of happiness from a bunch of different perspectives.

I started with some of the real key philosophies and some of the philosophical takes going back two and a half thousand odd years ago, which is when humans, certainly in the West, started to think about this idea of happiness.

And looking at those kind of things, you know, the concepts of eudaimonia, which Aristotle championed and the Stoics really sort of pushed forward this purpose, this sort of striving, this goal.

But counterpointing that with things like hedonism and Epicureanism, which is much more focused on the pleasure or the avoidance of pain and so forth.
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