Jun 19, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min · 14 segments
Can coaching make you a better cEDH player?Zach Adler is joined by Jordan and Lily Drake from The Drake Academy to discuss the value of coaching in competitive EDH. From improving decision-making and…
Zach AdlerHost
Lily DrakeGuest
Boros WineHost
I was the only person on the internet who I saw doing stuff around coaching, advertising coaching.

And now it kind of feels like it's become a dispersed and widely accepted thing to kind of go out and do coaching.

And yet it does sort of feel like the Wild West where someone will win a tournament and then everyone will flock for coaching.

And I talk with Kellen or Hebrew Hercules about this and he's like, I think it's mind blowing that people win a tournament and think they're ready to coach other people because he's a teacher for his profession.

So anyways, coaching is really where I think we want to chat today and have the bulk of the conversation.

So Jordan, the first thing I'm curious about from your coaching philosophy is, I think that a lot of players just think it's about reps, right? It's just play more games and I'll get better naturally.

Do you find that that's true? Or are there other ways that really are meaningful to practice the game and get consistently better in a more thought out and like intentional way?
So I think it's a little bit of both, right? I think it kind of depends on what you're trying to get out of it.
So like when I teach people, I like to say you needed to play games, especially when you're picking up a list for the first time, because then it's the only way you're going to understand the list.
It's nuances, why cards are there, why cards aren't there until you really get an understanding of it.
And that also lets you take notes on, you know, what cards feel good for you and what cards don't feel good for you.
And so you have to, I think a lot of times people will take the internet list and then wonder why they're not doing good with it.
But that's because it takes refining it over games to meet your personal play style, right? Because if I build my list, it's built for me and built for my style.
We're taking notes on our games so that we can ask those questions about like, hey, where are we going wrong? You know, why is this card here? Maybe I just need to do a little bit more research on it.
You know, I get a lot of questions, especially on certain cards within my TNT list, for example.

I was the only person on the internet who I saw doing stuff around coaching, advertising coaching.

And now it kind of feels like it's become a dispersed and widely accepted thing to kind of go out and do coaching.

And yet it does sort of feel like the Wild West where someone will win a tournament and then everyone will flock for coaching.

And I talk with Kellen or Hebrew Hercules about this and he's like, I think it's mind blowing that people win a tournament and think they're ready to coach other people because he's a teacher for his profession.

So anyways, coaching is really where I think we want to chat today and have the bulk of the conversation.

So Jordan, the first thing I'm curious about from your coaching philosophy is, I think that a lot of players just think it's about reps, right? It's just play more games and I'll get better naturally.

Do you find that that's true? Or are there other ways that really are meaningful to practice the game and get consistently better in a more thought out and like intentional way?
So I think it's a little bit of both, right? I think it kind of depends on what you're trying to get out of it.
So like when I teach people, I like to say you needed to play games, especially when you're picking up a list for the first time, because then it's the only way you're going to understand the list.
It's nuances, why cards are there, why cards aren't there until you really get an understanding of it.
And that also lets you take notes on, you know, what cards feel good for you and what cards don't feel good for you.
And so you have to, I think a lot of times people will take the internet list and then wonder why they're not doing good with it.
But that's because it takes refining it over games to meet your personal play style, right? Because if I build my list, it's built for me and built for my style.
We're taking notes on our games so that we can ask those questions about like, hey, where are we going wrong? You know, why is this card here? Maybe I just need to do a little bit more research on it.
You know, I get a lot of questions, especially on certain cards within my TNT list, for example.
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