The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria
May 14, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 28 segments
In Session 331, I sat down with Dr. Ben Seifert to talk about some of the most challenging — and important — work happening in applied behavior analysis today…
So one of the things we were, we were chatting about is that, uh, you, you have this notion that the field is kinda getting away from severe problem behavior.
... maybe [chuckles] probably, uh, directly related to their personal experiences of where they work-
You know, so again, regardless of the whether or not that, that is, you know, there are data for that or not, what, what, what makes you feel that way? That, that there's a, that perhaps might be a less emphasis on severe problem behavior.
And I, I, I think a great question because I think i-in how you phrase it, I think it's just my experience and, and I'm sure that other experiences are, are very different.
It seems to me in the past ten years or so, and, and that's just kind of just a, a, a even number I'm throwing out.
It seems to me that a lot of centers aren't taking clients who are above a certain age because they can't, maybe they can't get forty hours a week or, you know, those bigger hours, and also they're not dealing with as much severe problem behaviors.
I get a lot of referrals from other centers, from other people, like, you know, just can't deal with severe problem behavior.
And, you know, [sighs] I think it has to do with, and, and I'm guessing here, so I, I would love to hear, you know, from your, from your listeners about this.
My guess is our field is growing rapidly, right? Like, I mean, and there's a lot of need for it.
So I think a lot of people are probably just not as, you know, it's not in their scope of competence, which is fair, right? Like, I have no problem with someone saying, you know, "We're not gonna take a severe kid 'cause we don't know what to do there," right? That's fair.
I was in the field when there was only a couple centers and there's not a lot of places to go.
And so every place I've ever worked, there's always, you know, there's always been some pretty severe kids there.And feel like it's just as more and more centers are, are opening, I thought, man, everybody would be, you know, this is kinda what we do, right? In a lot of ways.
So one of the things we were, we were chatting about is that, uh, you, you have this notion that the field is kinda getting away from severe problem behavior.
... maybe [chuckles] probably, uh, directly related to their personal experiences of where they work-
You know, so again, regardless of the whether or not that, that is, you know, there are data for that or not, what, what, what makes you feel that way? That, that there's a, that perhaps might be a less emphasis on severe problem behavior.
And I, I, I think a great question because I think i-in how you phrase it, I think it's just my experience and, and I'm sure that other experiences are, are very different.
It seems to me in the past ten years or so, and, and that's just kind of just a, a, a even number I'm throwing out.
It seems to me that a lot of centers aren't taking clients who are above a certain age because they can't, maybe they can't get forty hours a week or, you know, those bigger hours, and also they're not dealing with as much severe problem behaviors.
I get a lot of referrals from other centers, from other people, like, you know, just can't deal with severe problem behavior.
And, you know, [sighs] I think it has to do with, and, and I'm guessing here, so I, I would love to hear, you know, from your, from your listeners about this.
My guess is our field is growing rapidly, right? Like, I mean, and there's a lot of need for it.
So I think a lot of people are probably just not as, you know, it's not in their scope of competence, which is fair, right? Like, I have no problem with someone saying, you know, "We're not gonna take a severe kid 'cause we don't know what to do there," right? That's fair.
I was in the field when there was only a couple centers and there's not a lot of places to go.
And so every place I've ever worked, there's always, you know, there's always been some pretty severe kids there.And feel like it's just as more and more centers are, are opening, I thought, man, everybody would be, you know, this is kinda what we do, right? In a lot of ways.
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