Sep 2, 2026 · 2 hr 3 min · 11 segments
In this episode, we speak with Dr. Jack Feldman, a pioneer in neuroscience and how it connects to our breathing. He is the David Geffen School of Medicine Distinguished Professor of Neurobiology at…
Jack FeldmanGuest
Mark GuadagnoliHost
But before we do, let's talk a little bit about, uh, the Pre-Botzinger Complex, what it is, what's the science like.

What is it that we're talking about that is, is arguably the most important neuroscience respiration finding in the history of the world? And that sounds like it's hyperbolic.

Um, so, um, in post-Renaissance science, one of the goals was to try and identify what the French called the noeud vital, the node of life.

And the node of life was the source of breathing because every living vertebrate mammal, the way you tell whether they're alive or not is whether they're breathing.

And so in the late seventeen hundreds, in an effort to find out where it was, some French neuroscientists did some experiments, and they...

Very crude experiments, sophisticated for the time, but now we would look at them as rather crude.

And they basically removed parts of the nervous system and found out that when they removed parts of the brain stem, that's the region of the nervous system sort of in the back of the neck here.

But when they got down to the brain stem and started to interfere with that, they, the animals stopped breathing.

So the, the notion that the, this noeud vital was in the brain stem has been around since the late part of the eighteenth century.

And then with the development of more sophisticated techniques and, uh, certainly after World War II, we were able, we, the, uh, neuroscientific and physiological community, was able to try and go after this problem in a little bit more detail.

And when I became interested in this, the idea was that there was a particular region in the brain stem that was generating the rhythm.

And it was based on a, um- An experiment where there was a, a region where if you put a recording device and electrode in, you saw that there was neural activity that was coordinated with the breathing of the animal.

But before we do, let's talk a little bit about, uh, the Pre-Botzinger Complex, what it is, what's the science like.

What is it that we're talking about that is, is arguably the most important neuroscience respiration finding in the history of the world? And that sounds like it's hyperbolic.

Um, so, um, in post-Renaissance science, one of the goals was to try and identify what the French called the noeud vital, the node of life.

And the node of life was the source of breathing because every living vertebrate mammal, the way you tell whether they're alive or not is whether they're breathing.

And so in the late seventeen hundreds, in an effort to find out where it was, some French neuroscientists did some experiments, and they...

Very crude experiments, sophisticated for the time, but now we would look at them as rather crude.

And they basically removed parts of the nervous system and found out that when they removed parts of the brain stem, that's the region of the nervous system sort of in the back of the neck here.

But when they got down to the brain stem and started to interfere with that, they, the animals stopped breathing.

So the, the notion that the, this noeud vital was in the brain stem has been around since the late part of the eighteenth century.

And then with the development of more sophisticated techniques and, uh, certainly after World War II, we were able, we, the, uh, neuroscientific and physiological community, was able to try and go after this problem in a little bit more detail.

And when I became interested in this, the idea was that there was a particular region in the brain stem that was generating the rhythm.

And it was based on a, um- An experiment where there was a, a region where if you put a recording device and electrode in, you saw that there was neural activity that was coordinated with the breathing of the animal.
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