The 200 Year Life Project: The Ultimate Longevity Journey
Oct 16, 2026 · 38 min · 13 segments
What if you could save for a longer life in bitcoin, with the tax advantages of a health savings account? Stuart Lackey is co-founder and CEO of SOUND HSA, an HSA that holds real bitcoin instead of…
Stu LackeyGuest
Gary LelandHost
If you're low time preference, it is the same as delaying gratification, right? You're thinking more long term.

Um, and that is realized in things like finances, right? The decisions we make today will compound in one way or another, not to think so is naive, um, down the road, and that happens in fitness and in health.

And so low time preference, meaning you're giving a lower preference to the immediacy of time and, and realizing whatever it is you're chasing, right? That gratification you're pushing out at some point into the future.


But if you came into Bitcoin in 2009 or early and you sold because you still thought in terms of like, well, I- I need to sell this because what if it goes down, you know, below the price I paid, you would have maybe a higher time preference and really probably didn't know what you owned at that point.

So pushing off gratification, lowering your time preference, um, is a key kind of attribute or characteristic of, of holding Bitcoin, among other things in life.

Well, I think, I think most, uh, Bitcoiners who've, who've been in this a while, I think you'll agree with this, they're not in a hurry at all to sell their Bitcoin, and they are educated enough in the subject that they know where it's going.

Just, um, and, and also for everybody watching out there, the goal of this show is not to sell you Bitcoin.

I mean, I, I don't have any Bitcoin I wanna sell you, and I'm sure Stu doesn't wanna sell any of his.

I've noticed a lot of the people, a lot of Bitcoiners, let me phrase it as, are into life longevity.

Uh, and I was, I'm amazed as how many people, how many Bitcoiners are into life longevity, and they're young.

It's a great, it's a great point you bring up 'cause I think about hope, right? You've heard Bitcoin is hope.

There's been books and, and papers written with that title or something similar, and it is.

It's like the, the longer you're in the space, you think differently because you become educated on how money, uh, money supply works.

Um, and you have hope that, you know what, if I can live long enough, I wanna enjoy this with my family or my circle or my people or whoever, and that opportunity exists.

If you're gonna buy Bitcoin, don't buy it unless you're gonna hold it for four years or longer.

If you're low time preference, it is the same as delaying gratification, right? You're thinking more long term.

Um, and that is realized in things like finances, right? The decisions we make today will compound in one way or another, not to think so is naive, um, down the road, and that happens in fitness and in health.

And so low time preference, meaning you're giving a lower preference to the immediacy of time and, and realizing whatever it is you're chasing, right? That gratification you're pushing out at some point into the future.


But if you came into Bitcoin in 2009 or early and you sold because you still thought in terms of like, well, I- I need to sell this because what if it goes down, you know, below the price I paid, you would have maybe a higher time preference and really probably didn't know what you owned at that point.

So pushing off gratification, lowering your time preference, um, is a key kind of attribute or characteristic of, of holding Bitcoin, among other things in life.

Well, I think, I think most, uh, Bitcoiners who've, who've been in this a while, I think you'll agree with this, they're not in a hurry at all to sell their Bitcoin, and they are educated enough in the subject that they know where it's going.

Just, um, and, and also for everybody watching out there, the goal of this show is not to sell you Bitcoin.

I mean, I, I don't have any Bitcoin I wanna sell you, and I'm sure Stu doesn't wanna sell any of his.

I've noticed a lot of the people, a lot of Bitcoiners, let me phrase it as, are into life longevity.

Uh, and I was, I'm amazed as how many people, how many Bitcoiners are into life longevity, and they're young.

It's a great, it's a great point you bring up 'cause I think about hope, right? You've heard Bitcoin is hope.

There's been books and, and papers written with that title or something similar, and it is.

It's like the, the longer you're in the space, you think differently because you become educated on how money, uh, money supply works.

Um, and you have hope that, you know what, if I can live long enough, I wanna enjoy this with my family or my circle or my people or whoever, and that opportunity exists.

If you're gonna buy Bitcoin, don't buy it unless you're gonna hold it for four years or longer.
The rest of this transcript — segmented and speaker-labeled, so you land on the exact moment something was said
Search every transcript — by keyword, by phrase, or by meaning, across every show Radar indexes
Trends — what is surging across podcasts, measured against its own baseline
Alerts — when a name you follow appears in a newly indexed episode
No account is needed to search Radar.