Oct 16, 2026 · 44 min · 8 segments
After October 7 and years of war, can Israelis envision a different future—and who is offering a credible path toward it? Journalist Emmanuelle Elbaz-Phelps, Israel correspondent for *Le Point* and…
Emmanuelle Elbaz-PhelpsGuest
Marc SchulmanHost
I think one of the problems that exists is the fact that no one is presenting alternative visions.
I mean, I don't care which, which, uh, candidate we're talking about, whether on the far...
Whether it's, uh, from Netanyahu, whether it's from Eisenkot, even for Yair Golan, there's no vision of what could be.
You're right in, in the way that sometimes you can find a plan, you can find some political decisions or diplomatic decisions or...
But, but there is no vision in a way that there is nothing to imagine.
There is nothing to think of as a picture that you're longing for, a, a, a way you wanna go.
And I, I do think that on the right part of the, uh, political landscape, there is a clear vision.
And when you put those channels on, which is mainly the 14th, but also the 15th, you do hear, uh, discussions about Judea, Samaria, and about Gaza, and about Palestinians.
It, m- they all don't always use the word Palestinians because some of them believe that there is no Palestinian people.
But there is a clear vision of how it's supposed to, to be the great Israel and the, the one land for the Jews.
They do not avoid the question, and I think that's why they're all so, so effective in that, because they have a plan, they have an ideology, they have a vision, they have a dream, and they work towards it.
There is no one making you dream where do you go in 10 years from now? How does it look when you can go, I don't know, in Jerusalem, in every part of Jerusalem, feel- feeling safe everywhere? Or how does it look if there is, um, s- a security agreement with, uh, Lebanon, or even a peace with Syria as you have a peace with Egypt or Jordan? It's not gonna happen tomorrow, but if you don't even know what it could look like, what it could change in your life, how do you work towards that? How do you make people even believe in that?
Well, I think part of the problem is that the right's vision doesn't require the agreement of the other side.
The vision that you're talking about requires another side to agree to it, and I fear that most Israelis have come to the conclusion that the other side will never agree to that.
I think one of the problems that exists is the fact that no one is presenting alternative visions.
I mean, I don't care which, which, uh, candidate we're talking about, whether on the far...
Whether it's, uh, from Netanyahu, whether it's from Eisenkot, even for Yair Golan, there's no vision of what could be.
You're right in, in the way that sometimes you can find a plan, you can find some political decisions or diplomatic decisions or...
But, but there is no vision in a way that there is nothing to imagine.
There is nothing to think of as a picture that you're longing for, a, a, a way you wanna go.
And I, I do think that on the right part of the, uh, political landscape, there is a clear vision.
And when you put those channels on, which is mainly the 14th, but also the 15th, you do hear, uh, discussions about Judea, Samaria, and about Gaza, and about Palestinians.
It, m- they all don't always use the word Palestinians because some of them believe that there is no Palestinian people.
But there is a clear vision of how it's supposed to, to be the great Israel and the, the one land for the Jews.
They do not avoid the question, and I think that's why they're all so, so effective in that, because they have a plan, they have an ideology, they have a vision, they have a dream, and they work towards it.
There is no one making you dream where do you go in 10 years from now? How does it look when you can go, I don't know, in Jerusalem, in every part of Jerusalem, feel- feeling safe everywhere? Or how does it look if there is, um, s- a security agreement with, uh, Lebanon, or even a peace with Syria as you have a peace with Egypt or Jordan? It's not gonna happen tomorrow, but if you don't even know what it could look like, what it could change in your life, how do you work towards that? How do you make people even believe in that?
Well, I think part of the problem is that the right's vision doesn't require the agreement of the other side.
The vision that you're talking about requires another side to agree to it, and I fear that most Israelis have come to the conclusion that the other side will never agree to that.
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