Sep 11, 2026 · 1 hr 43 min · 16 segments
Twenty-five years later, 9/11 still rewires how we see fear, community, and what America owes itself. This anniversary conversation brings together Robert Herr, Ken Arnold, Ryan Thomas, Eric…
Ken ArnoldGuestRobert HaywardGuestWe had the 25th year anniversary for 9-11 on the 250th anniversary of America.
I'm just saying same year we end up with such a synonymous association of anniversaries happening on a countrywide scale.
So, Ken, to follow up on that, why do you think this year, obviously, you know, I mean, being 25 years outside of the obvious, why do you think this year hits different? Why do you think it feels so different?
You know, so in the last several years, maybe in the last eight years, I think our country has really, really changed significantly.
You know, the one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk being murdered, you know, to me as an elderly person, I start to think about where's our country headed? What kind of a nation are my grandkids going to inherit? You know, I see trends.
See, I've been You have to be a big picture person and see what's going on globally.
Not just wars and conflicts, but I'm talking about migration and some of the ramifications of that happening on a global scale.
But for me, it's a big time check and thinking about who are we? Where are we going? Where are we going to be in five years?
I think to add on to that before I'd like to, I want to add one comment before I hand off to Eric here.
I do believe there's a guest there that they're willing to speak might be kind of cool to have on today's episode.
But I think the other really important part with the 25 year anniversary of the event is with everything that you're saying and the changes and the state of our country.
I mean, I have a daughter who's seven and um the anger i have inside watching what's happening in our country and stuff like that regarding knowing what she's going to be handed is i can't quite go into it it's not like trying to be edgy or anything it's just it's a it's a genuine emotion that i don't know how to handle half the time because my power is limited to being able to deal with it uh with that in mind at 25 years later we have people who are in their adulthood now they have begun voting And the idea of never forget doesn't quite apply when they're first.
And I don't mean any disrespect to anybody who has anybody with the following statement.
Their first real interaction with the concept of 9-11 and maybe even at all learning of it may have been memes, which is a terrifying concept to think that we're at that point in our country where it was so long ago that the severity of the moment, much like our generation, Robert, of trying to understand Vietnam to some degree was lost on us.
We had the 25th year anniversary for 9-11 on the 250th anniversary of America.
I'm just saying same year we end up with such a synonymous association of anniversaries happening on a countrywide scale.
So, Ken, to follow up on that, why do you think this year, obviously, you know, I mean, being 25 years outside of the obvious, why do you think this year hits different? Why do you think it feels so different?
You know, so in the last several years, maybe in the last eight years, I think our country has really, really changed significantly.
You know, the one-year anniversary of Charlie Kirk being murdered, you know, to me as an elderly person, I start to think about where's our country headed? What kind of a nation are my grandkids going to inherit? You know, I see trends.
See, I've been You have to be a big picture person and see what's going on globally.
Not just wars and conflicts, but I'm talking about migration and some of the ramifications of that happening on a global scale.
But for me, it's a big time check and thinking about who are we? Where are we going? Where are we going to be in five years?
I think to add on to that before I'd like to, I want to add one comment before I hand off to Eric here.
I do believe there's a guest there that they're willing to speak might be kind of cool to have on today's episode.
But I think the other really important part with the 25 year anniversary of the event is with everything that you're saying and the changes and the state of our country.
I mean, I have a daughter who's seven and um the anger i have inside watching what's happening in our country and stuff like that regarding knowing what she's going to be handed is i can't quite go into it it's not like trying to be edgy or anything it's just it's a it's a genuine emotion that i don't know how to handle half the time because my power is limited to being able to deal with it uh with that in mind at 25 years later we have people who are in their adulthood now they have begun voting And the idea of never forget doesn't quite apply when they're first.
And I don't mean any disrespect to anybody who has anybody with the following statement.
Their first real interaction with the concept of 9-11 and maybe even at all learning of it may have been memes, which is a terrifying concept to think that we're at that point in our country where it was so long ago that the severity of the moment, much like our generation, Robert, of trying to understand Vietnam to some degree was lost on us.
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