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Robert Hayward

Sep 13, 2026

5:46
is the bill doing about political donations that you like?
5:51
There is, as you say, a whole raft of changes, changes in practice, changes in terms of entitlement to vote.
5:59
And as you say, a series of clauses already in the bill, which has been through the Commons.
6:05
to change the process in relation to political donations and particularly to start addressing the question of cryptocurrencies.
6:14
I and a number of peers from different political parties have said to the government what they should do is take the bill back and consider introducing the bill just with 16 and 17 year olds and one or two other elements and then put carefully considered amendments in relation to donations in the next session of Parliament.
6:55
I wonder if you think there'll now be an arms race where, say, a Conservative or a Labour-inclined billionaire will get their checkbook out.
7:04
I think there is every possibility that that will happen.
7:08
that the trade unions might suddenly make a mega donation to the Labour Party, that some, as you say, very rich donor to the Tory party makes big contributions.
22:37
And so I wanted him to come on, introduce himself, and then he can tell us what he was doing on nine 11.
22:43
My name is Robert Hayward.
22:45
I was a fireman in San Bernardino County, California.
22:50
Back then, I was a fireman.
22:51
During 9-11, for us, it was just kind of a state of disbelief.
22:55
I just didn't believe it was happening.
22:57
I saw the planes hit the building and You know, we thought it was something like out of a movie or something like that, you know.
27:28
For you, what was going through your head as you were thinking about these brave men and women that were risking their lives on the ground as first responders, whether it was paramedics, whether it was firefighters that had to go into the building to try to rescue people? I mean, obviously, being on the other side of the country, dealing with a whole different type of disasters on a day-to-day basis, what was going through your head?
8:13
How much does this affect his core vote, would you say, Robert? Good morning.
8:17
Good morning.
8:18
I think there are two groups of people in relation to Reforms stroke Nigel Farage supporters.
8:24
One of the absolute diehards, and there's a lot of them, his favourability of ratings amongst that group of people is very strong indeed.
8:34
But there's also a group of people who are inclined towards reform, towards Nigel Farage, and there's been some sign in recent weeks and months that they are actually flaking away from reform, from Nigel Farage, because they're going to restore, they're going to uncertains or whatever.
8:54
There's no question that it is having an effect on that second group of people.
9:00
And can I just pick up, for example, on the clips you've just played? You will be able to intersperse, one, the comments you were asking about the five million, which was supposed to go for security at one point in explanation.
10:19
Where does this story go next, Robert?
23:27
Who's the big winner from this? Is it Reform?
23:29
Reform is the biggest single winner in terms of numbers of seats.
23:33
Whether they can match their share of vote, which they got last year, I think is unlikely.
23:39
But Reform will be taking seats off the Labour Party in what one would regard as the traditional Labour heartlands, South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, the North East, the West Midlands, and the like.
23:49
Greens will be taking seats off the Labour Party in London in particular, but also in the areas that are demographically similar, Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds.
26:29
Well, but how are things looking more generally in, in the Holyrood elections?
26:33
As Sienna said, pretty awful for the Labour Party.
26:36
Good for the SNP, who could never have expected to be in this position given all the difficulties that they've been through.

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