Oct 2, 2026 · 59 min · 11 segments
What happens when everything you built falls apart at once — and the only instruction you receive is get up, you took an oath? Kelsey sits down with Ilana Brown — spiritual mentor, shamanic bodywork…
Ilana BrownGuest
Kelsey AndersonHost
There are so many different journeys you've walked in such, like if we look at time, even though I know time is an interesting subject, but in what is perceived as a short amount of time, you have walked so many different parallels at the same time.

In fact, I know that because my overall mission of the lines that I use of like, what am I here to do? Teach people to move at the pace of nature.

And that's what's needed right now, right? To be in coherence with Mother Earth's heartbeat.

And coming from the corporate world where everyone is on false time, dopamine hits.

So, yeah, now I say that I said I'm like, I think I can slow down time because I do a lot.

I was actually just, this is no surprise, but just pondering thinking about and typing out some thoughts on slowing down time about two, three hours before this conversation happened.

But it is that what you said about the pace of nature as someone who was also in the corporate world for quite a many years, my life sped by and I just felt like I was missing my own life.

Most of the time it was soul crushing, but it was necessary because without that, I don't think I would have appreciated the work that I get to do today where I do 10x the amount of work I was doing then, like you said.

There are so many different journeys you've walked in such, like if we look at time, even though I know time is an interesting subject, but in what is perceived as a short amount of time, you have walked so many different parallels at the same time.

In fact, I know that because my overall mission of the lines that I use of like, what am I here to do? Teach people to move at the pace of nature.

And that's what's needed right now, right? To be in coherence with Mother Earth's heartbeat.

And coming from the corporate world where everyone is on false time, dopamine hits.

So, yeah, now I say that I said I'm like, I think I can slow down time because I do a lot.

I was actually just, this is no surprise, but just pondering thinking about and typing out some thoughts on slowing down time about two, three hours before this conversation happened.

But it is that what you said about the pace of nature as someone who was also in the corporate world for quite a many years, my life sped by and I just felt like I was missing my own life.

Most of the time it was soul crushing, but it was necessary because without that, I don't think I would have appreciated the work that I get to do today where I do 10x the amount of work I was doing then, like you said.
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