Hard Wood with Hellbent Hardware

Yeah.

Yeah, it's,

you know, I

don't hear it but you know it's funny I see people at dungeons be you know my wife and I go to dungeons as often as possible and I'll see somebody using one of my toys and I'll be like, Hey, that's one of mine and, you know, sometimes I'll wear a hell bent hardware t shirt and people say, I love that company and.

Or I'll see them using one of my friends, like Lumber Snackster.

He makes floggers, and I've seen people using his floggers before, and I go, oh, that's Lumber Snackster, isn't it? How did you know?

There's such a distinct aesthetic.

Lumber Snackster is also a good friend of mine.

I just got to do a whole photo shoot in which he loaned us something like 70 pieces as long as we didn't like utilize them too hard.

And it's just, it's like a very clear stat much like yours.

Like there's artwork going on here.

Yeah.

I went to a kink fest in Portland this year and I took a bag of his stuff up to kind of introduce it to the Pacific Northwest community.

I love that there, there is something that I see in the creator community of BDSM in which quality loves quality.

People who are really interested in making these pieces and making their art do so much to support each other.

And, um, It's not, like we said, you guys have very different aesthetics.

You're not always making the same tool.

So you don't really have to see each other, I think, as competition if you don't want to.

You know that, no, this is my work.

It's similar, but different from this person's work.

And we can support each other and just make the whole community better.

Yeah, exactly.

The old saying, you know, the rising tide lifts all boats.

So yeah, my stuff is completely different than most people's and, you know, which I'm sure we'll discuss later.

A lot of people can build things at home pretty easily, but mine is, it's an aesthetic, you know, the colors, the shiny paddles and, and how they feel in your hand.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's,

you know, I

don't hear it but you know it's funny I see people at dungeons be you know my wife and I go to dungeons as often as possible and I'll see somebody using one of my toys and I'll be like, Hey, that's one of mine and, you know, sometimes I'll wear a hell bent hardware t shirt and people say, I love that company and.

Or I'll see them using one of my friends, like Lumber Snackster.

He makes floggers, and I've seen people using his floggers before, and I go, oh, that's Lumber Snackster, isn't it? How did you know?

There's such a distinct aesthetic.

Lumber Snackster is also a good friend of mine.

I just got to do a whole photo shoot in which he loaned us something like 70 pieces as long as we didn't like utilize them too hard.

And it's just, it's like a very clear stat much like yours.

Like there's artwork going on here.

Yeah.

I went to a kink fest in Portland this year and I took a bag of his stuff up to kind of introduce it to the Pacific Northwest community.

I love that there, there is something that I see in the creator community of BDSM in which quality loves quality.

People who are really interested in making these pieces and making their art do so much to support each other.

And, um, It's not, like we said, you guys have very different aesthetics.

You're not always making the same tool.

So you don't really have to see each other, I think, as competition if you don't want to.

You know that, no, this is my work.

It's similar, but different from this person's work.

And we can support each other and just make the whole community better.

Yeah, exactly.

The old saying, you know, the rising tide lifts all boats.

So yeah, my stuff is completely different than most people's and, you know, which I'm sure we'll discuss later.

A lot of people can build things at home pretty easily, but mine is, it's an aesthetic, you know, the colors, the shiny paddles and, and how they feel in your hand.