Jun 12, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min · 21 segments
Kara and Scott are joined by MS NOW’s Stephanie Ruhle to unpack SpaceX’s blockbuster IPO, OpenAI’s public market ambitions, and rising inflation. Then, they discuss the White House’s Epstein headache…
Scott GallowayHost
Kara SwisherHost
Stephanie RuhleGuest
The Trump administration cannot escape the Epstein files, nor should they be able to, no matter how hard they try, and we're now getting more details about the internal panic about Epstein over the last year.
Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan shared an excerpt from their upcoming book, Regime Change, with The New York Times.
The Situation Room became an Epstein war room where strategy meetings took place.
JD Vance suggested having Tucker Carlson interview Ghislaine Maxwell in prison.
There was talk of nipples and-President Trump's disrespect for nipples in the room, and as funny as that sounds, it was pretty grotesque, um, his, uh, his, his abuse of a young woman.
Um, but this is what they're, this is what the, this entire leadership is talking about, is whether, and, and whether he'll be able to handle the nipple stuff getting out.
Bill Gates was on Capitol Hill this week testifying behind closed doors about his connection to Epstein.
Gates said Epstein tried to use information about his extramarital affairs as leverage after the two had cut ties.
Uh, he also acknowledged that meeting with Epstein was a grave error in judgment, which he said before, and put his philanthropy work at risk, and it certainly did, including his own reputation.
Did anything surprise you about how the White House dealt with the Epstein stuff? They sound like fucking amateurs.
Every time I was reading it, I was like, "What a bunch of amateurs." Big fights between Bongino and Patel and Bondi, and Susie Wiles just sitting over it like a demented mother who doesn't know how to control idiot children.
And I will say, as you know, I was very much an early on saying, "This is a real problem." Reuters is out with a new poll, 75% of people think the government is hiding information on Epstein's clients, and a lot of it is falling, as much as Trump has tried to push it off onto other people, on the president himself.
The Trump administration cannot escape the Epstein files, nor should they be able to, no matter how hard they try, and we're now getting more details about the internal panic about Epstein over the last year.
Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan shared an excerpt from their upcoming book, Regime Change, with The New York Times.
The Situation Room became an Epstein war room where strategy meetings took place.
JD Vance suggested having Tucker Carlson interview Ghislaine Maxwell in prison.
There was talk of nipples and-President Trump's disrespect for nipples in the room, and as funny as that sounds, it was pretty grotesque, um, his, uh, his, his abuse of a young woman.
Um, but this is what they're, this is what the, this entire leadership is talking about, is whether, and, and whether he'll be able to handle the nipple stuff getting out.
Bill Gates was on Capitol Hill this week testifying behind closed doors about his connection to Epstein.
Gates said Epstein tried to use information about his extramarital affairs as leverage after the two had cut ties.
Uh, he also acknowledged that meeting with Epstein was a grave error in judgment, which he said before, and put his philanthropy work at risk, and it certainly did, including his own reputation.
Did anything surprise you about how the White House dealt with the Epstein stuff? They sound like fucking amateurs.
Every time I was reading it, I was like, "What a bunch of amateurs." Big fights between Bongino and Patel and Bondi, and Susie Wiles just sitting over it like a demented mother who doesn't know how to control idiot children.
And I will say, as you know, I was very much an early on saying, "This is a real problem." Reuters is out with a new poll, 75% of people think the government is hiding information on Epstein's clients, and a lot of it is falling, as much as Trump has tried to push it off onto other people, on the president himself.
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