Canva

There was a picture.

That took me maybe an hour in Canva, by the way, getting the music uploaded and stuff.

It took me like as long as some of the stuff in our studio because I was like focused on that.

Amazing.

So we relate heavily to spending time

like that.

In Canva specifically.

We've been making these like burn book style things for our Instagram.

you mean the retrospective element of it? Yeah.

So they've got billions of dollars that they've made on Canva.

Canva, yeah.

Well,

notionally on paper.

I hear you're looking at something.

Have you got a story for

us? No, I was wondering if your list had anything about Canva this week.

And, um, and like, you're, you're like betraying your full self as an artist, if you use them.

Something like Canva, for example, or even just like an After Effects template back in the day.

And I think that is always up to the artist to decide.

I think any artist should be able to decide how they want to, let's say, do their art, if it's commercial art.

Kip, what do you say to students who you find out are, in fact, using chatbots to do their homework? Or even, at this point, we're not just talking chatbots.

They could be using agents to, you know, I mean, you were talking before the show about a student who wrote an agent to go download the homework from Canva.

do the homework in their own hand, their own handwriting, and then upload the assignment.

I mean, at one level, you're impressed, but in that kind of Ferris Bueller way where you're like, oh, God, I can't believe you did that, although kind of impressive, but God, I can't believe you did that.

I researched and researched.

I was in like psychosis as I was before, but I put together on Canva, like I was putting all the pieces together.

I put the artwork and then I put the bed and then I had the rug and then I'm like playing around with everything.

I'm kind of doing like you know, my own little, whatever you see online, you know, when people put shit on there and they like design rooms, I'm like doing that on Canva and I'm really excited about it.

And I really hope it comes together.

Sometimes I'm like, is it going to look like this in real life? I don't know.

And then the horse of Babylon logo, I actually designed myself just on a whim, just for funsies.

I was playing around in Canva because we kept going to like, like the gear nights, like in San Antonio and Houston and going up to Austin and Dallas.

And everyone's like, do you guys have pins? Do you guys have pins? And I'm like, we don't yet.

And so I was just messing around on Canva one day and I was like, what do you think about this? And she just fell in love with it and started posting it everywhere.

I want to get an artist to redo a rendition of it, but it's pretty good for now.

I like it.

This is now software.

And you might interface with your HubSpot and your YouTube and your Canva and all that stuff.

And even if you want to reverse engineer a lot of that, you can now with AI.

But you own this build.

Okay.

And I think there's a distinction there that took me personally quite a long time to understand that marketing activity isn't necessarily marketing progress, right? You can make all the Canva graphics.

You can write all the posts.

You can build the landing page.

And I love to still go through and rip out things from magazines and have like vision boards that you've made, not just

done on Canva or whatever.

Yeah.

Um, so, you know, gone by a magazine and rip out all the handbags and put them there and just stare at them every day and imagine that they were yours and then see if that magic happiness happens.