Seeking History and Brotherhood but had to leave the Club

So when you got into motorcycles, did that change the course of like your goals in life or were you still doing your own thing? Like, when did you go to school? Did you ever play in sports? Like how, how did that kind of shape up?

You know, I grew up playing sports my whole life.

And then in undergrad, I started rodeoing.

I did that for a long time.

And then in grad school, I started playing rugby, which I played for 30 years.

I played all over the country.

I played in Ireland.

I played in Scotland.

And that camaraderie of your teammates and your brothers and your brotherhood and really going and doing difficult stuff was something that I had always grown up with.

I didn't really have, you know, my real dad was not in my life.

I didn't have a strong, you know, father figure.

That's a great uncle that was, and some other guys that were good.

But kind of finding that in a team, and after I kind of moved on from that, then that's when I kind of, came more into motorcycling, more serious, kind of learning about the differences in a one-piece, two-piece, three-piece, 1% club patch.

And that's kind of what drew me to that.

And when I learned that you had to prospect for this and that was difficult and you had to earn, earn what you got, that was even more appealing to have a goal of something that was difficult and work towards achieving it and learning all the different nuances, the protocols and just all this stuff and then becoming successful.

you know, part of that brotherhood.

Yeah, you know what? I like you bring up a good point because we've talked about this a lot on other episodes, but that search for brotherhood, right? Like a lot of people go to clubs, they search that, but a lot of people go to clubs because they had that and they're trying to fulfill it still.

Like they left the military, they grew up in sports teams, you know, and maybe they're in a gang and now they're, you know, kind of evolving up or out of other things and they're looking for the club to replace that brotherhood.

So was that a strong drive for you as well?

Yeah, I would definitely say that was absolutely it.

whether it was even consciously or subconsciously too.

I was like, man, I like this brotherhood and doing this.

And I love the organization of it too, how we did things.

Because that reminds me of being in sports, right? Where it was organized and we showed up on time and we did things.

We made it priority.