Aug 4, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 21 segments
Pat Hiban was the #1 real estate agent in the world in 2004, then did it again in 2006 at a different brokerage. He sold over $1 billion in homes before walking away from active selling at 46, with no…
Pat HibanGuest
Mike NeubauerHost
Caroline NeubauerHost
People will work harder to right a wrong than they will to manifest something new of equal value.

Hey, before we get into the show, I wanted to take a quick moment to say thank you.

Caroline and I have been working so hard to make these shows as impactful as possible.

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So he told him he wasn't cut out for sales, learning disabled, turned down by corporate jobs he applied for out of college.

25 years later, he had sold over a billion dollars worth of homes, been the number one agent at two of the largest brokerages on the planet, and then walked away from all of it on purpose at 46.

Pat Hyben didn't find freedom, he engineered it, one passive income stream at a time, until the machine ran without him.

I think we all... need to hear an introduction like that every day as we start our day.

So Pat, what did I miss from that intro? Um, and what do you do in those 90 minutes?
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People will work harder to right a wrong than they will to manifest something new of equal value.

Hey, before we get into the show, I wanted to take a quick moment to say thank you.

Caroline and I have been working so hard to make these shows as impactful as possible.

And if you find value in what we're doing, the best thing you can do is to hit follow.

It tells the algorithm to show this podcast to more people, which in turn helps us to attract more awesome guests.

So he told him he wasn't cut out for sales, learning disabled, turned down by corporate jobs he applied for out of college.

25 years later, he had sold over a billion dollars worth of homes, been the number one agent at two of the largest brokerages on the planet, and then walked away from all of it on purpose at 46.

Pat Hyben didn't find freedom, he engineered it, one passive income stream at a time, until the machine ran without him.

I think we all... need to hear an introduction like that every day as we start our day.

So Pat, what did I miss from that intro? Um, and what do you do in those 90 minutes?