UFO Secrets or UFO Spin? | Ben Schreckinger

I want to welcome the guy who wrote today's article, Ben Schreckinger.

And Ben, welcome to Need to Know.

Hey, Bryce.

Thanks for having me.

Glad to be here.

Well, we're happy to have you.

I mean, it's not every day that I'm sitting down preparing to go on a show and then my inbox on my computer clears with an article breaking from the guy I'm about to talk to.

So, you know, I think we should talk about your story because Well, first of all, we both know, because you're very knowledgeable on this topic now, that Sean Kirkpatrick is a very controversial guy.

So the first thing I just want to ask you is, how did you end up talking to Sean Kirkpatrick for this article? Had you already talked to him before on other issues?

Yeah, we've had some sporadic online correspondence that began recently.

maybe a year ago, maybe several months ago, as I was doing initial research on this subject before launching Paradigm.

And since Jay Stratton's book has come out, he's responded to a couple of my queries, again, sporadically.

So as much as I would love to sit down with Sean, have a phone call with him, really get into some of these allegations in depth, at the moment, it's just occasional written responses to my questions that I'm getting.

Well, I thought the article had some shock value in it because it's always interesting.

Sean, I'll just be candid with you.

I think the biggest knock for Sean has been just the way he states things.

He's kind of combative in some of his public statements.

And so a lot of people in the UFO, UAP business have sort of taken – are kind of taken aback by that.

But I think we have to separate what he's actually saying versus how he's saying it, because I think that's true for everybody in public life.

And the main thing he seems to be saying in the article you've just written, or that you seem to be saying he's saying, I guess, is that Kirkpatrick, Sean Kirkpatrick, who ran Arrow, says he investigated these Lockheed allegations that have been all over the internet and all over UAP world, um, about Lockheed having craft and reverse engineering.

And in fact, brought up most specifically by, I guess, Jay Stratton's book, where I believe he says they have 12 of them.

Okay.

But you talked to the chief technology officer and he told you differently.

Or did you talk to the chief? No, Sean told me.

Yeah.