Jay Stratton

Uh, and I found that to be really sobering and you can only imagine what it might've felt like at that time, uh, to be a guy that kind of stumbled across this.

Like he's just sort of following the direction of the UAPTF, uh, you know, Jay Stratton, I think at the time asked him to dig into this stuff and he did, and he used his, his resources and his background to, you know, find all this content, but then people started coming out of the woodwork and, uh, and talking to him and sharing more things with him to further validate what he was discovering.

And he mentioned several times that what he likes to do is he likes to get validation from multiple sources.

He wasn't just taking it on face value.

Right.

So he's been sitting on some of this stuff and in his public life.

willingness to talk about it um for a reason and i think that's a certain degree like a little bit of self-censorship right like you know what what is it that he felt comfortable sharing back then versus now um and also i think i saw uh on x chrissy newton talk about you know what is he getting out in front of right so we've got potentially jay stratton's book you know it's coming out in that next week What's in that book? We've seen what's been in the Skinwalkers at the Pentagon book and the crazy kinds of stuff that we saw there.

So it's only going to get crazier.

Some of you may remember Logan as a retired US Air Force intelligence analyst, former member of the UAP Task Force, and CEO of Phenom LLC.

Now, Lenvo has spent years working within the intel community and was directly involved in the early UAP Task Force efforts, putting him alongside the names that have since become central to the whole conversation, David Grusch, Jay Stratton, and others.

And in this interview, we catch up on where things stand today, including those massive claims of David Grusch just recently on Joe Rogan, what Logan remembers from his own time looking at UAP material, the challenge of separating what is known from speculation, and some of the unusual cases and experiences that continue to shape his view of the phenomenon.

Logan also discussed his own approach as an intelligence analyst, the importance of com- uh, combining classified and unclassified information, and why he believes a huge amount of potentially useful sighting data has still never been properly collected.

And two weeks later, I hear that very distinctive voice, "I'm looking for, for Logan," and I'm like, oh, shit, he's here.

So we talk, and after I check enough about him, I was like, "Dude, your clearances are above mine.

I, I, I, you know, all I can do is really just kinda connect you to the big guys," which was connect him directly to Jay Stratton.

And God bless Jay Stratton, you know, his book is coming out soon, uh, Out of the Shadows, I think it's called.

You got to ask the same question about Luella Zondo, who his book was full of nuggets imminent last year.

And Jay Stratton in about a week is going to have his book out.

And you got to ask, well, why is Jay Stratton being being allowed? Why? Why does the government office of what is it that's that reviews the these books? I can't remember the name of it right now, but why do they allow it? I don't know.

other than there is a element of disclosure that's going on behind the curtain and that this is the public face of it.

I mean, it feels to me, I think the general perception is that somehow at this point, Dave Grush is the official voice of disclosure from the government, right? And that when he goes out and speaks, whether it's on Rogan or a podium on Congress, congressional steps, we're supposed to take what he's saying at face value.

And like I say, one thing I would love to dive into with Lou Elizondo, among other things, in another interview would be the relationship or lack of a relationship between him himself and Grusch.

Um, we're gonna find out, I think, in the next week what the relationship is between, uh, Elizondo and Jay Stratton because Jay Stratton's book is coming out.

Um, a lot of you have been sending me your screenshots to say you've ordered Stratton's book.

Thank you for letting me know you've done that.

I mean, Lou is an exception.

Probably Jay Stratton's gonna be an exception.

Obviously, I think it-

I think, uh, I, I don't think he-

And there's plenty of ways that can happen and will happen going forward.

But, um, I, I still say we're in for an interesting time.

And Pavel, when we s- sorry, when we speak next, it'll be the day before the Jay Stratton book comes out, so no doubt there'll be a lot of hype behind that.

There'll no doubt maybe even be a Stratton interview out before then.

It's, you know, it's sort of the 1956 version of what Lou Elizondo tried to do with his book Eminent, but better in that regard.

And Jay Stratton apparently is going to have a book out in October where he'll probably do some of the same.

But to do it in 1956, astonishing.

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