Ben Schreckinger

Now, we booked today's guest because I wanted to talk to a journalist who has made a particularly interesting career decision.

Ben Schreckinger spent more than a decade at Politico covering Donald Trump, investigating the Biden family, and reporting on how power operates in Washington, D.C. And now he has turned his attention to UFOs.

He's launched an independent publication called Paradigm with a weekly briefing called Signs of Life.

And I wanted to ask him what persuaded a reporter with his background to commit himself to a subject that so many of his colleagues still seem so reluctant to touch.

Now, for those of us who have followed the subject for years, Kirkpatrick is already a very controversial figure.

I myself have questions about his public statements, his certainty, and whether the way he talks about witnesses and investigators is consistent with the impartiality that the job required.

But, of course, having those questions doesn't relieve us of the responsibility to examine what he is saying now to an investigative journalist like Ben Schreckinger.

So, we have former officials with substantial credentials giving us incompatible accounts.

Hey Ufologists, I'm Cristina Gomez, and this is your UFO News Update.

Sean Kirkpatrick gave Paradigm reporter Ben Schreckinger new written comments on how his office handled the Lockheed Martin claims.

Stratton's memoir, Out of the Shadows, came out on October 13th and in it describes a 2009 conversation with Jim Ryder.

a senior Lockheed Research executive.

Kirkpatrick wrote all those names down that are tied to the government UAP investigations and to aerospace startups.

He gave those three names to Paradigm, but right now Paradigm is withholding them while it continues its reporting.

Kirkpatrick didn't respond to any follow-up questions asking for more detail, and he has not named the staffer or the office that the staffer worked for, asking about sending millions of dollars over to these three people that Ben Schreckinger knows the names of, but none of the rest of us do.

So what do you think? If a congressional staffer really tried to direct millions of dollars to specific people through Arrow, should that staffer and the lawmaker they worked for be named publicly? Let me know your thoughts in the comments.

That is Congressman Eric Burlison describing where alleged videos of non-human beings first described by David Grush is being held.

Now, investigative journalist Ben Schreckinger has found state records listing Grush as the chief operation officer of a private materials company.

That company was co-founded by two of the best-known names in the disclosure movement and reportedly has millions of dollars in investment behind it.

Schreckinger also got one of the most powerful Democrats in Washington to admit for the first time to a 2016 UFO call.

Yeah.

I said this with Ben Schreckinger, the journalist, last week, where it's the Simpsons South Park episode where the Simpsons did it.

They've done everything.

There's no new shows to write.

Kirkpatrick denies it, then fires back with accusations of national security violations.

Two former Pentagon UFO chiefs, serious allegations, but what evidence is behind them? Today, I'm joined by journalist Ben Schreckinger, the journalist who put Stratton's accusation to Sean Kirkpatrick and broke the story of his response in the last 24 hours.

Ben covered Donald Trump's rise for Politico.

Now he's investigating UFOs, and what he sees are some familiar patterns in the gap between what insiders are saying and what the wider world is prepared to take seriously.