Harold E. Puthoff

Um, and you're beginning to see all of these situations develop where not only are they not able to control the information, but real vulnerabilities are being identified as far, you know, and, and the need to develop better sensors and collect better data.

Two phrases we've heard, you know, echoed recently by Avi Loeb and Hal Puthoff and, and things, you know-

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... and, and, and others.

They gave or they gave a $50,000 grant to a California think tank called the Stanford Research Institute, or SRI.

The scientist there is Russell Targ and Harold Puthoff, were tasked-

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... with simple questions.

So Um, then, then you have like the 2004, you've got, you got the Nimitz and the Tic Tac.

Um, and you're beginning to see all of these situations develop where not only are they not able to control the information, but real vulnerabilities are being identified as far, you know, in, in the need to develop better sensors and collect better data, um, Two phrases we've heard, you know, echoed recently by Avi Loeb and Hal Puthoff and things, you know, and others.

And so they needed a massive rebranding.

Plus, we've got the space race, you know, entering new territory, new frontiers.

He read the file names of the super secret programs of the NSA that were contained in one place, which was inside of a massive safe in a super secret NSA facility.

He remote viewed it, and he read the file names that were on the folders, and the next day at Stanford Research Institute, where he was doing his research with Hal and, and, uh, uh, uh, Hal Puthoff and, um, Russell Targ at the SRI remote viewing program, the next day, national security showed up because they thought there'd been a high-level leak, because nobody knew the names of those files.

So what he proved, and has been proven many, many times since then and before then, is that there are ways of knowing the truth simply through your own mind.

And so this leads back into answering your question.

And a year, a couple of years passed.

I remembered going up, uh, to see Hal Puthoff, uh, whom I've known for a long, long time, um, probably about a year later, and I took notes there too.

And when I went to write the key, uh, I got, um ...

Someone asked me at some point to s- look at the notes.

And Joe Rogan actually asked him, Grusch, what format he thought that might follow.

And, and Dave Grusch pointed out that there has been actual scenarios that have been planned in the past, not just the Hal Puthoff related story that took place during George W. Bush's administration, where there was a, a, a gathering of people brought together who were in possession of inside information about the program, and they were asked to determine the pluses and minuses of having such a revelation.

This would have been sometime between two thousand and one and 2008.

But he referred, Grusch referred to a plan that was undertaken during the, the administration of George H.W. Bush George Bush Senior that went from 1988 to 1992, that there was actually a draft prepared of a statement on the part of, of President Bush Senior and a, a documentary film or an educational film being prepared to accompany a public announcement by Bush Senior, that there was a decision made not to do that.

Um, and w- you're beginning to see all of these situations develop where not only are they not able to control the information, but real vulnerabilities are being identified as far, you know, and, and the need to develop better sensors and collect better data.

Two phrases we've heard, you know, echoed recently by Avi Loeb and Hal Puthoff and, and things, you know-

Mm-hmm

... and, and, and others.