Ministry in a Secular Age featuring Dr. Andrew Root
Sep 14, 2026 · 27 min · 9 segments
Andy walks Derek through James Loder's The Logic of the Spirit — the roadside accident that shaped his whole project, and the two questions Loder thinks press on us from our first breath to our last…
Andrew RootGuestDerek TronsgaardHostSo the last two episodes of our podcast have been quotes of James Loader that you have sent to me and we've parsed through from his book, "The Logic of the Spirit." I'm gonna make a confession to you.
I am pretty sure that "Logic of the Spirit" was on required reading of one of your classroom syllabi from 2007, 2008 when I was taking your classes.
But I will admit to you now, I don't think I ever bought that book and I don't think I ever read it.
Um, I know, shocked, right? But what I will say is I have really enjoyed these last two conversations about that, so I'm maybe wondering if you could just tell us a little bit about the broader context of what he was trying to get at in that book and, and what his thinking was, was all about.
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So the last two episodes of our podcast have been quotes of James Loader that you have sent to me and we've parsed through from his book, "The Logic of the Spirit." I'm gonna make a confession to you.
I am pretty sure that "Logic of the Spirit" was on required reading of one of your classroom syllabi from 2007, 2008 when I was taking your classes.
But I will admit to you now, I don't think I ever bought that book and I don't think I ever read it.
Um, I know, shocked, right? But what I will say is I have really enjoyed these last two conversations about that, so I'm maybe wondering if you could just tell us a little bit about the broader context of what he was trying to get at in that book and, and what his thinking was, was all about.