James E. Loder

I, I...

It's not fair to say a dualism, but this goes back, well, from, from, from, uh, Blaise Pascal, who feeds this to Kierkegaard, and then Kierkegaard, who feeds a lot of other people, but eventually James Loder, is this sense that it's not enough just to be a self.

You know? It, it...

for, for Pascal, it's not enough to just be a rationali- a rationalizing thinking self, that there's something about what it means to be a soul.