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The logic of the spirit
Book by James E. Loder
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Sep 14, 2026
Your Church Nursery Is a Monastery
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0:00Derek TronsgaardHOST
So the last two episodes of our podcast have been quotes of James Loader that you have sent to me and we've parsed through from his book, "The Logic of the Spirit." I'm gonna make a confession to you.
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0:11Derek TronsgaardHOST
I am pretty sure that "Logic of the Spirit" was on required reading of one of your classroom syllabi from 2007, 2008 when I was taking your classes.
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0:24Derek TronsgaardHOST
But I will admit to you now, I don't think I ever bought that book and I don't think I ever read it.
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3:15Andrew RootGUEST
And so really trying to explore how the human spirit is transformed by the Holy Spirit.
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3:20Andrew RootGUEST
Also a kind of Kierkegaard scholar, so he's, like, trying to read Kierkegaard.
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3:24Andrew RootGUEST
And what he's doing in "The Logic of the Spirit," which is a really kind of fascinating thing for us to think about and I think really does...
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3:31Andrew RootGUEST
It's a hard book, so I understand why you didn't read it.
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3:33Andrew RootGUEST
Like, Loader is maybe the most brilliant guy we've had and, and-
Hurt by Church: Ministry and Helping Professions
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0:44Derek TronsgaardHOST
And then I want to dig into it because I think there's a lot of wisdom here.
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0:47Derek TronsgaardHOST
So in his book, The Logic of the Spirit, James Loader says this, Many persons go into the helping professions, and ministry in particular, because for the most part they are sensitive, caring people.
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1:04Derek TronsgaardHOST
But such people usually get hurt.
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1:06Derek TronsgaardHOST
In order to avoid the pain and keep on in ministry, they construct a persona of kindness, a mask that looks just like them when they are being most kind and most caring." Their most genuine caring selves are then reduced to a role.