Sep 16, 2026 · 1 hr · 14 segments
In 1977, a man named Frank Collin announced that he planned to…
James LoefflerGuest
Jeff SalkinHost
I'm referring to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where white supremacists marched with torches chanting, the Jews will not replace us.

if not at that rally itself, but at the subsequent trial where a defense attorney tried to get Jim Loeffler to say under oath that this torch march and a college campus chant, the Jews will not replace us, belong in the same moral category.

James Leffler is a professor of history, and I have studied with him at the Shalom Hartman Institute, and I've learned from his writings over the years.

Jim begins his new book with that refusal on the witness stand to And that turns out to be a big argument.

The book is called Exceptional Hatred, Anti-Semitism and the Fight Over Free Speech in Modern America.

And it moves through three moments that most Americans have either never heard of or have never connected to each other.

And then that is a narrative that brings us straight through October 7th and into the current fight over what counts as anti-Semitism and who gets to decide.

Jim not only has his new fantastic book, but just last night I read his new article on anti-Semitism that is in the current issue of The Atlantic.

We'll get to the current stuff a little bit later, but you open the book on the witness stand in Charlottesville, and the defense attorney is trying to get you to say that Nazis chanting or white supremacists chanting Jews will not replace us, the great replacement theory, And a student chanting about Gaza are the same kind of hatred.

So what happened in that room? And tell us why you built this whole book around a moment when you refused to answer a question.
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I'm referring to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where white supremacists marched with torches chanting, the Jews will not replace us.

if not at that rally itself, but at the subsequent trial where a defense attorney tried to get Jim Loeffler to say under oath that this torch march and a college campus chant, the Jews will not replace us, belong in the same moral category.

James Leffler is a professor of history, and I have studied with him at the Shalom Hartman Institute, and I've learned from his writings over the years.

Jim begins his new book with that refusal on the witness stand to And that turns out to be a big argument.

The book is called Exceptional Hatred, Anti-Semitism and the Fight Over Free Speech in Modern America.

And it moves through three moments that most Americans have either never heard of or have never connected to each other.

And then that is a narrative that brings us straight through October 7th and into the current fight over what counts as anti-Semitism and who gets to decide.

Jim not only has his new fantastic book, but just last night I read his new article on anti-Semitism that is in the current issue of The Atlantic.

We'll get to the current stuff a little bit later, but you open the book on the witness stand in Charlottesville, and the defense attorney is trying to get you to say that Nazis chanting or white supremacists chanting Jews will not replace us, the great replacement theory, And a student chanting about Gaza are the same kind of hatred.

So what happened in that room? And tell us why you built this whole book around a moment when you refused to answer a question.