unshakable resilience (feat. Michael Ostrolenk)

So tell me a little bit about why it's really important to kind of get out of your comfort zone.

Tell me the benefits of what happens when you do get out of your comfort zone.

Well, so you can break it down into comfort zones around physical comfort, mental, emotional comfort, spiritual comfort, and I'll say it's important to get out of one's comfort zone in all those areas.

And some pe- thing, activities that people can do can touch all those things.

'Cause what I find is moth gro- most growth occurs not when we're comfortable but when we're uncomfortable 'cause it stretches us.

It, it requires us to try new things, cultivate new capacities or new skills, and that's where the growth occurs.

And unfortunately, it would seem that our culture supports more of comfort.

Like, if you think about physical comfort, like we have temperature gauges in our house to make sure we have the exact temperature that we want, not too cold, not too hot.

The same thing in our cars.

Like, if you think about how we adapted over hundreds of thousands and millions of years as human beings and whatever preceded us as human beings, you know, we had fluctuations in, in temperature over the seasons and over the weeks and months and years.

We had to physiologically adapt to that.

Well, now we've lost those adaptive needs 'cause we live in controlled environments, and s- for many people, not everyone, it's the same thing psychologically too.

We try to, we try to make the, you know, life as easy as possible.

And great.

Sometimes it's really nice.

And a lot of times that does not lead to growth.

We...

And, and especially with the technology we have today, like the technology kind of leads us in many cases to be a little bit more lazy, a little bit more comfortable.

And, you know, like I said, hey, that's great for some people.

Sometimes in their life it's really necessary.

But for a lot of people it's, you know, I'd say finding opportunities, either daily, weekly, monthly, seasonal, whatever it happens to be, to challenge yourself, whether it's physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, is where the growth will occur.

Comfort will kill you basically over the time.

Do you s- um, from the people that have gotten out of their comfort zones, what were some notorious and kind of common things that people were having trouble with that, um, they had issues of trying to get out of their comfort zone? What was kind of the main issue about what...

that was holding them back?

That's a great question, and I'll g- give two seemingly like dichotomous answers to that qu- to that question.