Alissa WalkerHost
Kate CagleGuestGodfrey PlataHost
Maybe the last time you were on, we talked about they had the suspect in custody, perhaps? Right,

So we learned for the first time the Department of Justice's version of events of how they believe the Palisades fire truly started, which...

The main shock of all of this was not that there was an alleged arsonist, but that was what presented the holdover fire theory, was that it was a fire that had started on January 1st.

It smoldered underground for a week, and then it reignited during the high wind event into the deadly, destructive Palisades Fire, the worst fire in the history of the city of Los Angeles.

And the government had this theory that it had been started by a disgruntled Uber driver who actually used to live in the Palisades and was driving for Uber on New Year's Eve.

And most of their evidence was from the suspect's cell phone and the fact that they could geolocate that he was on this hiking trail And the fact that he had called 911 multiple times to report the fire, the fact that he screen recorded his 911 calls, and then what was really novel about this trial.

prosecutors said that he was trying to create his own evidence track to say, hey, I tried to report the fire.

So that's a very interesting detail we'll come back to as far as like what you get from someone's phone records, right? Right.

Well, and what was totally new about this was they used his chat GPT conversations.

Maybe the last time you were on, we talked about they had the suspect in custody, perhaps? Right,

So we learned for the first time the Department of Justice's version of events of how they believe the Palisades fire truly started, which...

The main shock of all of this was not that there was an alleged arsonist, but that was what presented the holdover fire theory, was that it was a fire that had started on January 1st.

It smoldered underground for a week, and then it reignited during the high wind event into the deadly, destructive Palisades Fire, the worst fire in the history of the city of Los Angeles.

And the government had this theory that it had been started by a disgruntled Uber driver who actually used to live in the Palisades and was driving for Uber on New Year's Eve.

And most of their evidence was from the suspect's cell phone and the fact that they could geolocate that he was on this hiking trail And the fact that he had called 911 multiple times to report the fire, the fact that he screen recorded his 911 calls, and then what was really novel about this trial.

prosecutors said that he was trying to create his own evidence track to say, hey, I tried to report the fire.

So that's a very interesting detail we'll come back to as far as like what you get from someone's phone records, right? Right.

Well, and what was totally new about this was they used his chat GPT conversations.
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