Harry FederGuestLet's talk not about college admissions tests but about the state and district tests that kids-
Before we, we delve into the nature of those tests and the problems with them, how much testing is going on these days?

I mean, first of all, you know, you start from the basic requirements of federal law-

... um, which is now under the, uh, Every Student Succeeds Act passed in 2016, which was the successor to No Child Left Behind.

Um, so every student in every state is tested, uh, in math and ELA from grades three through eight.

Um, they get tested in each of those things once in high school, and these are just federally required tests.

And then they're requi-- and then there's a science requirement as well, which is a grade span requirement, so grades three through five, middle six through eight, and then once in high school.

So that's just what's required under federal law, so that's what states have to do.

But the truth is that there's a lot more testing that happens, some of which is in, um, in furtherance, I would say, of the results that are being sought, uh, under the federal law, and others are just the things that states and districts like to do and, and, and buy from vendors.

Um, there is a rec- very recent, uh, report done by an organization called Education First, uh, of K through eight testing, and they looked at, I think it was, like, 38 different states.

Um, and so that report showed that students take as many as 88 academic assessments before entering high school.

And so in the highest testing districts, students sit for as much as, uh, 222 hours of testing.
Let's talk not about college admissions tests but about the state and district tests that kids-
Before we, we delve into the nature of those tests and the problems with them, how much testing is going on these days?

I mean, first of all, you know, you start from the basic requirements of federal law-

... um, which is now under the, uh, Every Student Succeeds Act passed in 2016, which was the successor to No Child Left Behind.

Um, so every student in every state is tested, uh, in math and ELA from grades three through eight.

Um, they get tested in each of those things once in high school, and these are just federally required tests.

And then they're requi-- and then there's a science requirement as well, which is a grade span requirement, so grades three through five, middle six through eight, and then once in high school.

So that's just what's required under federal law, so that's what states have to do.

But the truth is that there's a lot more testing that happens, some of which is in, um, in furtherance, I would say, of the results that are being sought, uh, under the federal law, and others are just the things that states and districts like to do and, and, and buy from vendors.

Um, there is a rec- very recent, uh, report done by an organization called Education First, uh, of K through eight testing, and they looked at, I think it was, like, 38 different states.

Um, and so that report showed that students take as many as 88 academic assessments before entering high school.

And so in the highest testing districts, students sit for as much as, uh, 222 hours of testing.
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