Jesse Jackson

Johnny.

He's like Jesse Jackson, whoever pick, pick the most inflammatory.

he's an interesting guy when he

gets going when he's like really really making his point and like painting people into a corner i'm like i would fucking hate to be in court with this guy

I did, I mean, we did, you know, subsequently with the comic strip, You know, we had one show, which is called Street Frogs, which was basically about street kids, you know, rap and hip hop and this and the other.

I got sent to Washington to talk to Operation Push, to Jesse Jackson's people, about the whole racial element of Street Frogs.

And it was, you know, very uncomfortable, very It was a very uncomfortable moment for me because on the one hand, you know, look, they're frogs.

It's a cartoon.

So in Haitian Creole, you can have a neg noir, a black guy, and a neg blanc.

They called Jesse Jackson a neg blanc when he went to Haiti, black as Jesse Jackson is.

Now, that's interesting.

And it just meant a foreigner of any race.

I've openly, I've spoken to some of these people face to face.

I said, why aren't you using your platform? It's the same thing I've asked in Chicago with Barack Obama, Brandon Johnson, or whatever his name is, the mayor, and Jesse Jackson before he passed away.

And others.

Al Sharpton.

I mean, Jesse Jackson, who had done, and I'm not comparing apples to oranges, but at the time a lot of the media was just like, Jesse Jackson, um, who did so much worse, got three years.

They're talking about the case-

You mean Jesse Jackson Jr, not Reverend Jackson.

Jr, yeah.

His son, Jr.

But he sort of decided to get with the times, that this is just not where the culture is going.

And, you know, you had the whole Joshua generation of Obama and Cory Booker, and they had this guy in D.C., Adrian Fenty, and they were going to put to bed the whole Jesse Jackson politics and the, you know, the old... liberation politics who can actually muslims can't call them out who is prominent who can actually call them out within the world of black politics or black intellectual life who has any prominence right now is there anyone there like because i think that's going to be a huge issue for the next year with jeffrey's coming in as speaker who could do it like

Well, I think many a Black Muslim could.

I mean, it's still a case.

It's so much deeper than that.

I quote the late, great Jesse Jackson Sr. that we lose too many elections by the margin of our absence at the polls.

We lose too many elections by the simple margin of of our absence at the polls.

I asked this question, given your eloquent statement just now, Marcus, your insightful statement, what ought Donald Trump have taught us? What ought he be teaching us in real time about the value of the vote?