Oct 1, 2026 · 39 min · 12 segments
Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss Jen’s new book “Made Like Me.” **Questions Covered in This Episode:** - Why did you write this book? - Why is Genesis 2 important? - Is the emphasis…
Jen WilkinHostJT EnglishHostWe're really asking the question: what is the foundation of generous complementarianism? But I also kinda wanna ask it with reference to this really wonderful kids' picture book that Jen has just released.
Uh, and if you, if you're interested in this and you wanna teach this, this idea, this truth to your kiddos, I would encourage you to go check it out wherever you get your books.
But Jen, just, like, before you, before we dive into, like, exploring the question, because I, I do want us to talk about kind of the, the doctrinal foundation of what we have called for years now generous complementarianism.
Others have called it narrow complementarianism, and I, I think that's a misnomer.
We've preferred to call it generous complementarianism, and that's what we're gonna focus on, but, like, okay, Jen, why did you write...
I wrote it because I felt like, generally speaking, people don't spend time in Genesis 2, and that would be tall people and small people.
I think we read Genesis 1, or we teach children, you know, "Oh, God created everything.
He made the man and the woman," and then we just kinda, like, move on to the fall.
Um, why do we need this chapter? And so w- and then on top of that, it's a really colorful chapter f- for kids.
Like, I, I think it loans itself to a children's story, other than the fact that there's always that delicate problem of Adam and Eve not wearing any clothing, which makes...
I think that's one of the reasons children's Bibles move so quickly past those stories is 'cause there's only so many ways you can skillfully draw a naked man and woman.
Um, but I will say in, in the case of this book, I'm so thrilled with the way that the illustrations, um, turned out.
But this chapter is necessary because it is the solving of an aloneness problem in a particular way.
And so too, I think too often in our circles, and by our circles I mean, like, we've been in the gospel-centered movement, we've been in the complementarian space, um, because of the culture at large doing so much work to downplay differences between men and women, we have grown shy about talking about the importance of remembering that we are fundamentally same.
Um, and so, like, I hope what the book will do is say same but different, same but different, same but different, but with a little bit more emphasis on sameness than is, than I often hear taught when, when chapter 2 is being taught.
We're really asking the question: what is the foundation of generous complementarianism? But I also kinda wanna ask it with reference to this really wonderful kids' picture book that Jen has just released.
Uh, and if you, if you're interested in this and you wanna teach this, this idea, this truth to your kiddos, I would encourage you to go check it out wherever you get your books.
But Jen, just, like, before you, before we dive into, like, exploring the question, because I, I do want us to talk about kind of the, the doctrinal foundation of what we have called for years now generous complementarianism.
Others have called it narrow complementarianism, and I, I think that's a misnomer.
We've preferred to call it generous complementarianism, and that's what we're gonna focus on, but, like, okay, Jen, why did you write...
I wrote it because I felt like, generally speaking, people don't spend time in Genesis 2, and that would be tall people and small people.
I think we read Genesis 1, or we teach children, you know, "Oh, God created everything.
He made the man and the woman," and then we just kinda, like, move on to the fall.
Um, why do we need this chapter? And so w- and then on top of that, it's a really colorful chapter f- for kids.
Like, I, I think it loans itself to a children's story, other than the fact that there's always that delicate problem of Adam and Eve not wearing any clothing, which makes...
I think that's one of the reasons children's Bibles move so quickly past those stories is 'cause there's only so many ways you can skillfully draw a naked man and woman.
Um, but I will say in, in the case of this book, I'm so thrilled with the way that the illustrations, um, turned out.
But this chapter is necessary because it is the solving of an aloneness problem in a particular way.
And so too, I think too often in our circles, and by our circles I mean, like, we've been in the gospel-centered movement, we've been in the complementarian space, um, because of the culture at large doing so much work to downplay differences between men and women, we have grown shy about talking about the importance of remembering that we are fundamentally same.
Um, and so, like, I hope what the book will do is say same but different, same but different, same but different, but with a little bit more emphasis on sameness than is, than I often hear taught when, when chapter 2 is being taught.
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