In Pursuit of Happiness with Judy Woodruff
Jul 9, 2026 · 49 min · 10 segments
From Benjamin Franklin to The Onion, satire has long been a part of how Americans process politics and power. In this episode of "In Pursuit of Happiness," Judy Woodruff talks to Sophia McClennen of…
Sophia McClennenGuest
Joshua JohnsonGuestit has happened.
We're what your grandma is talking about when she says, I saw this on the news.
They did one skit about me interviewing Carrie Lake, who was running for governor.
Now, Ms.
Lake, you have proposed some big changes to local voting laws.
If you become governor, do you promise to make sure everyone's
vote counts? Judy, I'll make it easy.
If the people of Arizona elect me, I'll make sure they never have to vote ever again.
And
you both have referred to this, but what we find is that increasingly is that Americans are trusting, and the polls are showing this, in many cases, they're trusting what the satirists, what the people telling the jokes are saying about what's going on more than they are what we in the media are telling them.

And part of it has to do with the history of not just news media, but the media in general.

Again, I'm old enough to remember when there was no cable, you know, and so we've seen these shifts.

When it used to be, I remember growing up, it was the time to watch the news.

it starts to change when you get cable and suddenly you could be watching the news or you could be watching Baywatch.

And then the news had to suddenly get a little more entertaining to pull those eyeballs back.
it has happened.
We're what your grandma is talking about when she says, I saw this on the news.
They did one skit about me interviewing Carrie Lake, who was running for governor.
Now, Ms.
Lake, you have proposed some big changes to local voting laws.
If you become governor, do you promise to make sure everyone's
vote counts? Judy, I'll make it easy.
If the people of Arizona elect me, I'll make sure they never have to vote ever again.
And
you both have referred to this, but what we find is that increasingly is that Americans are trusting, and the polls are showing this, in many cases, they're trusting what the satirists, what the people telling the jokes are saying about what's going on more than they are what we in the media are telling them.

And part of it has to do with the history of not just news media, but the media in general.

Again, I'm old enough to remember when there was no cable, you know, and so we've seen these shifts.

When it used to be, I remember growing up, it was the time to watch the news.

it starts to change when you get cable and suddenly you could be watching the news or you could be watching Baywatch.

And then the news had to suddenly get a little more entertaining to pull those eyeballs back.
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