Sep 30, 2026 · 28 min · 9 segments
Brazil votes on Sunday, and the final week of the campaign has turned on religion. A rumor that a Flávio Bolsonaro government would strip Our Lady of Aparecida of her title as Brazil's patron saint…
James GreenGuestNow, without further ado, because we have a lot to discuss, this is, we're in the final days before Brazilians finally cast a vote.
We have been talking about the election and everything around it since the start of the year.
James, uh, what do you make of, uh, the, the environment? You're now in Brazil.
Uh, h- how do you see the environment around the election in this home stretch?

So I think first of all, we can say that there has not been as much interest and enthusiasm about the election as in other years, uh, in terms of campaigning, people talking about it, getting out the vote, convincing friends for whom to vote, et cetera.

And, uh, yesterday in São Paulo, there was a, a big rally for the Workers' Party at, uh, on Paulista Avenue.

And you saw a lot of people campaigning with their banners and passing out the little stickers and flyers, but not the energy that I've seen in other years.

The other thing I've observed, and this is reinforced by every conversation I've had with my famous Uber drivers, is that, uh, the country's very polarized.

Uh, people are very, uh, uh, tired of dealing with the tensions in Brazilian society that they c- uh, attribute to corruption and all politicians being corrupt.

And I think also there's a, a, a sentiment, at least among the supporters of, uh, of Flávio Bolsonaro, that Lula is likely to win, which is a very interesting, uh, observation to make.

I've, I've heard too many people to, to s- have said that to make it not be something significant in some way.

So whether this means le- some people won't vote, they'll, they'll vote blank, or, or they won't bother to mobilize, I'm not sure, but there's certainly this atmosphere as well.

Now, without further ado, because we have a lot to discuss, this is, we're in the final days before Brazilians finally cast a vote.
We have been talking about the election and everything around it since the start of the year.
James, uh, what do you make of, uh, the, the environment? You're now in Brazil.
Uh, h- how do you see the environment around the election in this home stretch?

So I think first of all, we can say that there has not been as much interest and enthusiasm about the election as in other years, uh, in terms of campaigning, people talking about it, getting out the vote, convincing friends for whom to vote, et cetera.

And, uh, yesterday in São Paulo, there was a, a big rally for the Workers' Party at, uh, on Paulista Avenue.

And you saw a lot of people campaigning with their banners and passing out the little stickers and flyers, but not the energy that I've seen in other years.

The other thing I've observed, and this is reinforced by every conversation I've had with my famous Uber drivers, is that, uh, the country's very polarized.

Uh, people are very, uh, uh, tired of dealing with the tensions in Brazilian society that they c- uh, attribute to corruption and all politicians being corrupt.

And I think also there's a, a, a sentiment, at least among the supporters of, uh, of Flávio Bolsonaro, that Lula is likely to win, which is a very interesting, uh, observation to make.

I've, I've heard too many people to, to s- have said that to make it not be something significant in some way.

So whether this means le- some people won't vote, they'll, they'll vote blank, or, or they won't bother to mobilize, I'm not sure, but there's certainly this atmosphere as well.

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