Dunkirk and Tenet

I'd seen all of his movies up to this point, and I'd enjoyed pretty much all of his movies up to this point, but I kind of was embarrassed for enjoying all these movies.

It was...

You know, people would say, like, you know, Inception, you gotta see it twice to understand, like, how deep it is or whatever, and I was like, "No, I'm happy I saw that movie once because, like, I was already starting to see the cracks [laughs], like, and I know if I watched it a second time I would just be like, 'This is fucking stupid.'" So I only watched all those movies once, except I, I think maybe the, the Batman movies I might've did a couple of times before then.

But I was, I was a tentative Nolan fan, or st- uh, I was ashamed of my Nolan fan hood or whatever.

I've, I'd, I wasn't really a Nolan guy.

Um, but then when I went and saw Dunkirk, I kind of, I felt like there was a lot more going on here than most people were kind of picking up on.

Mm-hmm.

And it was right after I'd recently gone through all the Spielberg movies and kind of had this sort of revelation that Spielberg was working on, you know, all these other levels and whatnot, and we've talked a little bit about that in the podcast.

We'll get more into it as we go.

But when I saw Dunkirk, I kind of was like, "Oh, I think, I think that Christopher Nolan is actually operating on a similar level to Spielberg here.

I think he's, he's kind of trying to do a similar thing to Spielberg here." And Dunkirk was after, it was, it was directly after he had taken, um, a year, a couple years off to restore Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey.

And it was after his restoration of that that he came out with this movie that I thought was like, oh, there's...

This is...

There are hidden depths here.

Um, and it almost seemed like he was inspired by 2001 to sort of embrace that Kubrickian filmmaking thing of it's, you know, it's g- it's a movie for everybody, but it's, it's not...

Not everybody's gonna kind of know what we're talking about here.

No, I totally agree.

Um-

And I think that after I saw this movie I, I, I kind of went back and I applied that to his other movies.

And I think that there is a reason to watch Inception a second time.

[laughs] I think Inception's a really great and deep and interesting movie, and maybe someday we'll talk about that one too, but yeah, I think it, it really, really stands for Dunkirk.

I agree.

Seems, seems less smart than it is.

Mm-hmm.

For me, um, I was in a very similar place as you, although I, like, kind of unapologetically continued to like Nolan movies.