Builders Webinar | Clockwise CEO Matt Martin on the Secrets to PMF | EO

Gotcha.

Gotcha.

All right.

And a quick question.

Uh, what are you most interested in these days, both in terms of your company and your personal life? You mentioned AI before.

Uh, what's something that's interesting to you in this space, actually?

Um, in the AI space or just generally?

Um, if, if there's something more interesting, like, please, um, have it your way.

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Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll, um- I find it really interesting in the AI space generally, and this is a little bit self-serving because we're tackling this, so I'll just acknowledge that I'm biased.

But I think we're in this phase, I was not a big believer in, um, crypto.

Um, I, I don't want to make that a religious point of view or a political point of view or anything of that nature.

Uh, but I, I just like, for me personally, I didn't see...

I saw an interesting technology, but I didn't understand the use case.

Um, and AI manifests very differently for me, where I see s- a foundational piece of technology that's only getting better with time.

And I think that the issue that we have with AI is different right now, which is that we don't yet know what a great AI experience looks like.

Like, we just don't.

Um, like ChatGPT is interesting, it's good.

Um, but I don't think it's, it's, I mean, it is mass marketed by any traditional definition, but, like, it's, it's the generic version of something.

Um, like you look at, uh, GitHub Copilot, that's a good one.

That's a good one.

Like, that's actually, that's a defined use case that I think we're s- really starting to nail.

But you look at some of the copilots that, um, you know, Microsoft has put out and, like, I don't know.

I don't know.

Gotcha.

Gotcha.

All right.

And a quick question.

Uh, what are you most interested in these days, both in terms of your company and your personal life? You mentioned AI before.

Uh, what's something that's interesting to you in this space, actually?

Um, in the AI space or just generally?

Um, if, if there's something more interesting, like, please, um, have it your way.

[laughs]

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll, um- I find it really interesting in the AI space generally, and this is a little bit self-serving because we're tackling this, so I'll just acknowledge that I'm biased.

But I think we're in this phase, I was not a big believer in, um, crypto.

Um, I, I don't want to make that a religious point of view or a political point of view or anything of that nature.

Uh, but I, I just like, for me personally, I didn't see...

I saw an interesting technology, but I didn't understand the use case.

Um, and AI manifests very differently for me, where I see s- a foundational piece of technology that's only getting better with time.

And I think that the issue that we have with AI is different right now, which is that we don't yet know what a great AI experience looks like.

Like, we just don't.

Um, like ChatGPT is interesting, it's good.

Um, but I don't think it's, it's, I mean, it is mass marketed by any traditional definition, but, like, it's, it's the generic version of something.

Um, like you look at, uh, GitHub Copilot, that's a good one.

That's a good one.

Like, that's actually, that's a defined use case that I think we're s- really starting to nail.

But you look at some of the copilots that, um, you know, Microsoft has put out and, like, I don't know.

I don't know.