Oct 8, 2026 · 47 min · 11 segments
We have Outer Shapes in the studio for this one. Laura and C talk about how a two person band became a fully built creative world, from the way they shape their sound around elements like fire and…
Sam WolffHostCGuestyeah and we both we share the the pad the push yeah but yeah it's a lot of moving around before after and during yeah
so were all these instruments that you kind of all dabbled in between starting the project and knowing each other did you just throw them in the project because you were like this sounds cool or you said you you see you had an idea for what sort of music you wanted to make was that kind of like let's bring what we know or let's let's get this a cute sound that we're going for
Yeah, it started off like, let's use what feels natural to us.
And we were in a tiny bedroom.
I mean, we're still in a tiny apartment in general, but we like had less space.
So we used the computer a lot at first, but also, of course, the guitar.
But then like...
I would say around Toothache Era, which is one of our EPs, we really wanted to go in a more sharp direction.
I remember we were like, let's make songs or let's make EPs based on the elements and let's start with fire.
And so we started with fire and then we just never stopped with fire.
um like we would go through our like synth and like is this a fire sound is this a fire sound and then like we'd build songs off of that and it really like clicked and like worked for us because i think for a long time like um i will put in a lot of like musical ideas but i'm like more of a water like naturally lean water ways like i'm kind of i like i'm
And
then you're like pop punk, like raw, like you've got like all these emotions and like they're really awesome and big.
And so for a long time, our music didn't exactly match what like the lyrics Laura was writing.
And then so around, like, toothache era when we were like, let's try fire elements, it, like, matched really well.
And so nowadays we try to pick instruments based on that.
I'm
yeah and we both we share the the pad the push yeah but yeah it's a lot of moving around before after and during yeah
so were all these instruments that you kind of all dabbled in between starting the project and knowing each other did you just throw them in the project because you were like this sounds cool or you said you you see you had an idea for what sort of music you wanted to make was that kind of like let's bring what we know or let's let's get this a cute sound that we're going for
Yeah, it started off like, let's use what feels natural to us.
And we were in a tiny bedroom.
I mean, we're still in a tiny apartment in general, but we like had less space.
So we used the computer a lot at first, but also, of course, the guitar.
But then like...
I would say around Toothache Era, which is one of our EPs, we really wanted to go in a more sharp direction.
I remember we were like, let's make songs or let's make EPs based on the elements and let's start with fire.
And so we started with fire and then we just never stopped with fire.
um like we would go through our like synth and like is this a fire sound is this a fire sound and then like we'd build songs off of that and it really like clicked and like worked for us because i think for a long time like um i will put in a lot of like musical ideas but i'm like more of a water like naturally lean water ways like i'm kind of i like i'm
And
then you're like pop punk, like raw, like you've got like all these emotions and like they're really awesome and big.
And so for a long time, our music didn't exactly match what like the lyrics Laura was writing.
And then so around, like, toothache era when we were like, let's try fire elements, it, like, matched really well.
And so nowadays we try to pick instruments based on that.
I'm
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