DW Berlin Briefing - Inside German politics
Oct 22, 2026 · 31 min · 9 segments
Europe wants growth, innovation and strategic autonomy. But can it become more competitive without becoming more dependent on the US? Max Hofmann speaks with Cecilia Malmström and Kai Steinecke on…
Cecilia MalmströmGuest
Max HofmannHostKai SteineckeGuestAnd when you also talk to industrial AI and real world AI and robots, that's where people see, okay, this is where we have a lot of capability and data that we can rely on and that we can train robots on.
All of these things don't matter because we have the industrial base or still have an industrial base for robotics.
So this morning I talked to Neurorobotics who are developing humanoid robots and they basically say hey we you know who owns the data is actually ahead of the game in the end basically and there's a lot of ways that we can harvest this kind of industrial data here in Germany you know we have big middle stand companies that we can work with.
We have the other big companies like Siemens that really want to go all in on this industrial AI thing.
Predictive maintenance, how you can predict if stuff is going to fail and save costs like that.
and they feel like okay this is something where we still have an edge but at the same time you feel like wait a minute but all of the manufacturing capacities at some point went to the east like to asia and stuff like that why how does that match but when you talk to the people running these companies they're like yes we have an edge
And again, we don't want to dismiss the difficulties and the challenges, and we have a long way to go.
But I think passing that gloom and seeing that we actually have good things in Europe.
We have manufacture, we have machinery, we have clean technology, we have pharma, we have a lot of entrepreneurship.
And we just heard the Chancellor saying that he is now pushing again for the pension reform to sort of liberate some capital so that we can do scale because that's what needed in Germany and in
And when you also talk to industrial AI and real world AI and robots, that's where people see, okay, this is where we have a lot of capability and data that we can rely on and that we can train robots on.
All of these things don't matter because we have the industrial base or still have an industrial base for robotics.
So this morning I talked to Neurorobotics who are developing humanoid robots and they basically say hey we you know who owns the data is actually ahead of the game in the end basically and there's a lot of ways that we can harvest this kind of industrial data here in Germany you know we have big middle stand companies that we can work with.
We have the other big companies like Siemens that really want to go all in on this industrial AI thing.
Predictive maintenance, how you can predict if stuff is going to fail and save costs like that.
and they feel like okay this is something where we still have an edge but at the same time you feel like wait a minute but all of the manufacturing capacities at some point went to the east like to asia and stuff like that why how does that match but when you talk to the people running these companies they're like yes we have an edge
And again, we don't want to dismiss the difficulties and the challenges, and we have a long way to go.
But I think passing that gloom and seeing that we actually have good things in Europe.
We have manufacture, we have machinery, we have clean technology, we have pharma, we have a lot of entrepreneurship.
And we just heard the Chancellor saying that he is now pushing again for the pension reform to sort of liberate some capital so that we can do scale because that's what needed in Germany and in
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