ICE's Use of Force: Was it Appropriate?

All right.

So in your opinion, then, would you say that all police officers have some degree of fear or anxiety that out of the blue they may be hit?

Absolutely.

Okay.

Absolutely.

Do you think the public understands that or is that something that's fairly unique to the police?

I think I think in general, the public doesn't understand that.

I think police officers all understand it.

They know what a continuum of force is and they know what level they're at and they know what level they don't want to be at.

And if they are at any of those levels, they know how to respond.

Yeah, I had a

lot of experience in the New York City Police Department.

I ran a college program for the NYPD and other police surrounding police departments.

And I was in Fort Apache and I spoke to countless police officers about this.

I just want to back you up and say that I never met a police officer who did not have that anxiety.

The possibility of one moment you're alive, the next moment you're shot.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

So what do you teach your students? You teach them to be calm.

And what do you do? You teach them to wait for the other person to make the first move? Or what is the theory here? No.

The general public isn't regulated like a police officer would be.

They have a continuum.

Each precinct or place that they work has a certain way of describing a level of force that's appropriate for them.