Neurodivergence, Sobriety & Finding Yourself with Matthew Matsuzaki

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, you're touching on so many interesting things.

Thing one, I really appreciate the way you scarred the tattoos because I have that very similar experience.

And it is interesting.

There are whole groups of people, my wife being one, who are like, wow, that's what your brain's like.

And I'm like, yes, every day.

Um, and you know, some of us too, I don't know if you're in this spectrum, but like I'm a, um, massive feeler, right? So, um, John O'Nolan at ghost.

So I'm now a head of brand at ghost.

I took that role at the beginning of the year after two and a half decades or mostly running my own design agencies.

And, um, man, I'm having a blast.

I love ghosts for a bunch of reasons, but one of the interesting things about John is, um, he has something called aphantasia.

If I hold out my hand here and imagine a red apple, I not only can see the apple, I can see the texture, I can see the lighting, I can taste it.

I really can.

that motherfucker can't see anything.

Yeah, that's me.

I

can't, nothing.

Oh, you're the

same? Same, which is weird as a designer.

But also one of the reasons my psychiatrist was like, you probably think you're constantly thinking because you're making up for the fact that you can't visualize anything.

So John says he's got a 2X CPU, no monitor.

That's his like way of saying it.

And I love that.

But what's fascinating is for those of us who have brains like this and have these muscles.