Sep 17, 2025 · 47 min · 15 segments
As Winston Peters heads to the UN, Context looks back at how NZ has shaped the world stage — from Peter Fraser at its founding to peacekeepers in Korea and Timor, and a fiery clash with Israel…
Corin DannHost
Guyon EspinerHost
Which is a really interesting story, a proud story, one that you can't help but be a little proud of.
Probably around the last week of September, New Zealand, and it'll be Winston Peters, actually, not Christopher Luxon, which in itself was a little bit interesting.
And he will most likely, and I say most likely because it's not confirmed, spell out whether New Zealand is going to recognise Palestine as a state.
Now, a number of our allies have pretty much said they are going to, bar a few conditions.
But pretty much the likes of Australia, the UK, I think Canada, France have indicated they're going to do it.
Let's have a listen to Christopher Luxon when he announced that they were probably going to do it.
We acknowledge that some of our close partners have and others haven't taken a position to formally recognise Palestine.
It's a formal decision that Cabinet will take in September and frankly it's something the Minister of Foreign Affairs will articulate when he's at the Leaders' Week in the UN at the end of September.
I mean, firstly, Guy, are you surprised that Christopher Lux is not doing that? I mean, in the past, prime ministers have gone, I would have thought he would have, but it seems as though Winston's got that job.
Yeah, I mean, if it was a Helen Clark-led government, you know, you would be struggling to keep her away, wouldn't you? So, I mean, she was someone who took the attitude that the prime minister was kind of also the de facto foreign minister.
But you've got a guy in Winston Peters, this is his third rodeo, is it, as foreign minister? And, you know, he's jealously guarding that position.
Christopher Lux has a different style of leadership, doesn't he? He delegates a lot more than a key or a clerk might have done.
Now, the position has always been, Winston Peters has always said, it's going to happen, it's just a matter of when.
So it seemed a bit odd when they came out and said this, that they were going to take another month to consider it.
And I think ACT has raised some concerns, and there is criticism that maybe Hamas would benefit from this in some way.
Which is a really interesting story, a proud story, one that you can't help but be a little proud of.
Probably around the last week of September, New Zealand, and it'll be Winston Peters, actually, not Christopher Luxon, which in itself was a little bit interesting.
And he will most likely, and I say most likely because it's not confirmed, spell out whether New Zealand is going to recognise Palestine as a state.
Now, a number of our allies have pretty much said they are going to, bar a few conditions.
But pretty much the likes of Australia, the UK, I think Canada, France have indicated they're going to do it.
Let's have a listen to Christopher Luxon when he announced that they were probably going to do it.
We acknowledge that some of our close partners have and others haven't taken a position to formally recognise Palestine.
It's a formal decision that Cabinet will take in September and frankly it's something the Minister of Foreign Affairs will articulate when he's at the Leaders' Week in the UN at the end of September.
I mean, firstly, Guy, are you surprised that Christopher Lux is not doing that? I mean, in the past, prime ministers have gone, I would have thought he would have, but it seems as though Winston's got that job.
Yeah, I mean, if it was a Helen Clark-led government, you know, you would be struggling to keep her away, wouldn't you? So, I mean, she was someone who took the attitude that the prime minister was kind of also the de facto foreign minister.
But you've got a guy in Winston Peters, this is his third rodeo, is it, as foreign minister? And, you know, he's jealously guarding that position.
Christopher Lux has a different style of leadership, doesn't he? He delegates a lot more than a key or a clerk might have done.
Now, the position has always been, Winston Peters has always said, it's going to happen, it's just a matter of when.
So it seemed a bit odd when they came out and said this, that they were going to take another month to consider it.
And I think ACT has raised some concerns, and there is criticism that maybe Hamas would benefit from this in some way.
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