Built Different with Ian Schwartzman
Sep 18, 2026 · 34 min · 11 segments
Cousins Maine Lobster co-founders Jim Tselikis and Sabin Lomac sit down to reveal the true story behind their incredible entrepreneurial journey. From launching a single food truck in LA with only…
Ian SchwartzmanHost
Jim TselikisGuest
Sabin LomacGuest
So that leads me into something I hear you guys constantly saying, which is scale.

Right now, you guys are in how many different states with some form of a brick and mortar or a truck?

But we always say, you know, to your point, is like franchising is a hard thing.

You need to let people know you have a business that exists and then it whittles down to such a small percent of inquiries that will actually become a franchise.

small amount on advertising lasts like a year and a half, letting people know that there are open markets still.

And people, so basically your company markets itself, which is a beautiful thing.


It's all free caught, right? Fresh caught, wild caught, which I think is great because the other way is disgusting.

But my question is, would you guys do the same thing Don Voltaggio has done, which is maybe eat some of the internal potential profits.

To keep your customers happy and giving them access to Cousin's Bain lobster rolls, even if it meant hurting your pockets.

So that leads me into something I hear you guys constantly saying, which is scale.

Right now, you guys are in how many different states with some form of a brick and mortar or a truck?

But we always say, you know, to your point, is like franchising is a hard thing.

You need to let people know you have a business that exists and then it whittles down to such a small percent of inquiries that will actually become a franchise.

small amount on advertising lasts like a year and a half, letting people know that there are open markets still.

And people, so basically your company markets itself, which is a beautiful thing.


It's all free caught, right? Fresh caught, wild caught, which I think is great because the other way is disgusting.

But my question is, would you guys do the same thing Don Voltaggio has done, which is maybe eat some of the internal potential profits.

To keep your customers happy and giving them access to Cousin's Bain lobster rolls, even if it meant hurting your pockets.
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