Sep 18, 2026 · 1 hr 22 min · 16 segments
He told a $30 billion hospital system's CFO "sue me" - and won. David Silverstein, founder of Amaze Health and former U.S. Navy submarine officer, joins Ray in-studio to break down what's really…
David SilversteinGuestRay KoberHostAnd for the unindoctrinated... what exactly do you do? Like, why does a company hire you? Are they looking...
Well, before we get to Amaze, just getting back to kind of your roots, how do you come on to...
How do you acquire business? Is it relationship-driven? Does someone hire you because of your background and your experience as an officer in the Navy, which certainly that's a pathway for many CEOs, right? They're a military officer, right? And the training there really lends itself to great leadership.
And so how do you get your foot in the door and why do they hire you? And at the end of the day, what's your business model? Are you putting money at risk? Are you saying if you hire us, we guarantee results? Or are you just taking a shot? Like, just help me understand.

So the firm we started in 99 was really at the time what you would call the Six Sigma space.

My last my last real job was helping to lead a 10 billion dollar company through the implementation of.

So when I got out there in the market with a couple partners, there was a lot of demand.

And so it hired us really for the training and the methodology, right? And we got into the lean space, lean operations.

But the way Lean Methods really competes with McKinsey, a Boston consulting group, a Booz, is there you're hiring bodies.
And for the unindoctrinated... what exactly do you do? Like, why does a company hire you? Are they looking...
Well, before we get to Amaze, just getting back to kind of your roots, how do you come on to...
How do you acquire business? Is it relationship-driven? Does someone hire you because of your background and your experience as an officer in the Navy, which certainly that's a pathway for many CEOs, right? They're a military officer, right? And the training there really lends itself to great leadership.
And so how do you get your foot in the door and why do they hire you? And at the end of the day, what's your business model? Are you putting money at risk? Are you saying if you hire us, we guarantee results? Or are you just taking a shot? Like, just help me understand.

So the firm we started in 99 was really at the time what you would call the Six Sigma space.

My last my last real job was helping to lead a 10 billion dollar company through the implementation of.

So when I got out there in the market with a couple partners, there was a lot of demand.

And so it hired us really for the training and the methodology, right? And we got into the lean space, lean operations.

But the way Lean Methods really competes with McKinsey, a Boston consulting group, a Booz, is there you're hiring bodies.
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