Sep 3, 2026 · 1 hr 9 min · 21 segments
**Full show notes: bengreenfieldlife.com/pharma** In this special repeat episode, Dr. Sandra Kaufmann breaks down which pharmaceuticals mimic the effects of…
Ben GreenfieldHostSandra KaufmannGuest
Remember we were at that conference in the mountains, nosebleed country somewhere.

We were at this, like, private longevity conference, and we were talking about exercise and sauna and cold and red light therapy and all these things that people do.

And you said, "Well, I travel a lot and I've got a hack for a lot of that stuff that saves me a lot of time." And you basically, I think the way you phrased it was you said something like, "There's a drug for just about everything that people do to optimize health with those type of methods these days."

And then I think what I said, not to rehash our entire conversation, was, "We should do a podcast about that." [laughs]

Remember we were at that conference in the mountains, nosebleed country somewhere.

We were at this, like, private longevity conference, and we were talking about exercise and sauna and cold and red light therapy and all these things that people do.

And you said, "Well, I travel a lot and I've got a hack for a lot of that stuff that saves me a lot of time." And you basically, I think the way you phrased it was you said something like, "There's a drug for just about everything that people do to optimize health with those type of methods these days."

And then I think what I said, not to rehash our entire conversation, was, "We should do a podcast about that." [laughs]
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