Sep 1, 2026 · 1 hr 40 min · 9 segments
In this thoughtful conversation, Paula sits down with renowned horseman Martin Black to explore a lifetime shaped by generations of horsemanship, wild horses, and the traditions that continue to…
Martin BlackGuestPaulaHostJackHostIt's hard because we're products of our environment.
And so you're in a situation where you've got a string of horses that you've got to get going an X amount of time.
And you've kind of had to find your way, even though you came from a long history of horsemen.
They're not there to just be helping you.
They've got their own stuff to be working on.
So you're learning kind of through this osmosis and that sort of thing.
So the sitting and waiting, I could see where that might get left behind a little bit.
Because you've got more horses and there's only so many hours in the day.
Yeah.
Yeah.

No, and the other thing is we rode calves at the branding going up and then pretty quick we're riding cows and then riding bucking horses.

I mean, kids, boys are rough and tumble and they're wrestling and they're riding a cow with a mane and tail hold and all this crazy stuff that boys do.

But I started riding a saddle Bronx when I was in high school, you know, people later, it's a Tom Ray connection.

Well, you know, how, how does that work? You know, I mean, here you are riding a stressed horse and spurn them and all this.

We didn't try to bring this horse down in his energy level before we got on because we might go 100 miles a day on that one horse.

And we need to preserve all the energy we have because on the way home, we might need to source some neighbor's cattle and put them back over the hill or something.

We want all that energy we can to make sure we get the job done and not have as tired a horse.
It's hard because we're products of our environment.
And so you're in a situation where you've got a string of horses that you've got to get going an X amount of time.
And you've kind of had to find your way, even though you came from a long history of horsemen.
They're not there to just be helping you.
They've got their own stuff to be working on.
So you're learning kind of through this osmosis and that sort of thing.
So the sitting and waiting, I could see where that might get left behind a little bit.
Because you've got more horses and there's only so many hours in the day.
Yeah.
Yeah.

No, and the other thing is we rode calves at the branding going up and then pretty quick we're riding cows and then riding bucking horses.

I mean, kids, boys are rough and tumble and they're wrestling and they're riding a cow with a mane and tail hold and all this crazy stuff that boys do.

But I started riding a saddle Bronx when I was in high school, you know, people later, it's a Tom Ray connection.

Well, you know, how, how does that work? You know, I mean, here you are riding a stressed horse and spurn them and all this.

We didn't try to bring this horse down in his energy level before we got on because we might go 100 miles a day on that one horse.

And we need to preserve all the energy we have because on the way home, we might need to source some neighbor's cattle and put them back over the hill or something.

We want all that energy we can to make sure we get the job done and not have as tired a horse.
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