Jul 24, 2026 · 26 min · 12 segments
In the same interview where he discussed his friendly interactions with current Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham, Republican state Sen. Jay Block’s words regarding the Democratic candidate running to…
Jay BlockGuest
Daniel ChacónHost
And I noticed on your social media that you had recent meetings with two governors, former Governor Gary Johnson and our current governor, Michelle Lujan Grisham.

I also remember that it wasn't that long ago that you were highly critical of MLG.

Evil, corrupt, out-of-touch failure, and the worst governor ever were among the words you used to describe her.

We met the other day talking about some technology stuff that could potentially help workforce solutions, healthcare, and education.

But I think once you get to know the person, you got a little bit different perspective.

So I appreciate her being very open and friendly with me and I'm very open and friendly with her and any type of disagreement I have with her, it's gonna be on policy, it's nothing personal.

And I want the governor to be successful because if she's successful, the whole state is successful.

And I know it's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way and here's what really kind of pisses me off.

is, you know, we're told from both sides, Democrats and Republicans, we want you to work together.

There's been a few posts of the governor and I together on working together on a couple issues.

Like, how can you talk to that guy? And how can you talk to her? It's like, You know, you can't make everybody happy, but I enjoy working with the other side.

As you know, Daniel, I do during the session where we can to get New Mexico moving forward.

Senator, you brought up a topic that I was going to ask you about, because in reading some of the reactions to the photo of you standing next to the governor, and it appears as though you have your arm around her.

But reaction to that photo was very mixed and with some folks being very critical.

And I noticed on your social media that you had recent meetings with two governors, former Governor Gary Johnson and our current governor, Michelle Lujan Grisham.

I also remember that it wasn't that long ago that you were highly critical of MLG.

Evil, corrupt, out-of-touch failure, and the worst governor ever were among the words you used to describe her.

We met the other day talking about some technology stuff that could potentially help workforce solutions, healthcare, and education.

But I think once you get to know the person, you got a little bit different perspective.

So I appreciate her being very open and friendly with me and I'm very open and friendly with her and any type of disagreement I have with her, it's gonna be on policy, it's nothing personal.

And I want the governor to be successful because if she's successful, the whole state is successful.

And I know it's rubbed a lot of people the wrong way and here's what really kind of pisses me off.

is, you know, we're told from both sides, Democrats and Republicans, we want you to work together.

There's been a few posts of the governor and I together on working together on a couple issues.

Like, how can you talk to that guy? And how can you talk to her? It's like, You know, you can't make everybody happy, but I enjoy working with the other side.

As you know, Daniel, I do during the session where we can to get New Mexico moving forward.

Senator, you brought up a topic that I was going to ask you about, because in reading some of the reactions to the photo of you standing next to the governor, and it appears as though you have your arm around her.

But reaction to that photo was very mixed and with some folks being very critical.
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