Aug 17, 2026 · 46 min · 11 segments
In this episode, Joe chats with Mark Gregory, CTE Coordinator at Colorado River BOCES, and Jeff Barratt, President and CEO of Associated General Contractors of Colorado. Together, they discuss rural…
Jeff BarrattGuest
Joe RossHost
Plus, you are this tribe sector athlete when it comes to your experience in industry and higher ed and apprenticeship.

I want to – I don't even know where to begin, but I'm going to start with the Emily Griffith Technical College degree you just described.

So 45 credits towards the 60-credit degree comes from the apprenticeship itself, just like that.

And then what's required after that is 15 credits of what – what would usually be referred to as general education in some shape or manner.

And then on top of that, there's an opportunity to do a six-course sequence that prepares you to run the business, so to speak, because it's about estimating and contracting and all those things.

I don't know, the pinnacle of what people want to see apprenticeship and higher ed do.

You combine it with liberal education, general education in the right way, it should prepare people to get the long-term durable benefits of a degree.

I want to shout across the mountaintops, maybe Colorado mountaintops are pretty tall, and tell people about this because that's a really...

Plus, you are this tribe sector athlete when it comes to your experience in industry and higher ed and apprenticeship.

I want to – I don't even know where to begin, but I'm going to start with the Emily Griffith Technical College degree you just described.

So 45 credits towards the 60-credit degree comes from the apprenticeship itself, just like that.

And then what's required after that is 15 credits of what – what would usually be referred to as general education in some shape or manner.

And then on top of that, there's an opportunity to do a six-course sequence that prepares you to run the business, so to speak, because it's about estimating and contracting and all those things.

I don't know, the pinnacle of what people want to see apprenticeship and higher ed do.

You combine it with liberal education, general education in the right way, it should prepare people to get the long-term durable benefits of a degree.

I want to shout across the mountaintops, maybe Colorado mountaintops are pretty tall, and tell people about this because that's a really...
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