Amplify: A Podcast Powered by Patient Voice Partners
Sep 11, 2026 · 40 min · 12 segments
**Episode Summary** When Kathleen “Kathy” Barnard noticed two small spots on her arm, she had no idea they would lead to a diagnosis of metastatic malignant melanoma—and a prognosis of just three to…
Kathy BarnardGuest
Ursula MannHostAnne-MarieHost
Brent CordyHost
Well, when we were finished treatment and everything was looking good for me in Edmonton, my doctor said, I need your help.

He said, the drug you got, the newer models, the innovative medicines are about to come to Canada in cancer.

And who better to advocate than somebody who had one? And I said, okay, I can do this.

I said, what do we need to do? And we started what we called the Mike and Kathy Dog and Pony Show.

We traveled across the country talking to other doctors about these new IO drugs and targeted drugs that we were about to see, getting them up to speed.

Kathy, just to back up IO and tell us a little bit about what you mean for the acronym, the immuno-oncology.

So it was really, really new to treaters in this country and they were a little bit worried about it because it can have, for some patients, intense side effects.

So that was Dr. Smiley's job was to go out and kind of mentor and kind of coach everybody in these new drugs.

So it was my job to meet with health ministers, assistant deputy health ministers, anybody in the provinces that were responsible for health care budgets.

And it was my job to go out and say, hey, we need to get your budgets ready because we're going to see some drugs coming into the Canadian system that in the U.S. they're talking about curative.

We want to have those treatments available because that's all we had in melanoma.

So I needed to make sure, firstly, the melanoma patients were going to get access to those.

And we built a melanoma task force of physicians that early back then were maybe 10 deep.

Well, when we were finished treatment and everything was looking good for me in Edmonton, my doctor said, I need your help.

He said, the drug you got, the newer models, the innovative medicines are about to come to Canada in cancer.

And who better to advocate than somebody who had one? And I said, okay, I can do this.

I said, what do we need to do? And we started what we called the Mike and Kathy Dog and Pony Show.

We traveled across the country talking to other doctors about these new IO drugs and targeted drugs that we were about to see, getting them up to speed.

Kathy, just to back up IO and tell us a little bit about what you mean for the acronym, the immuno-oncology.

So it was really, really new to treaters in this country and they were a little bit worried about it because it can have, for some patients, intense side effects.

So that was Dr. Smiley's job was to go out and kind of mentor and kind of coach everybody in these new drugs.

So it was my job to meet with health ministers, assistant deputy health ministers, anybody in the provinces that were responsible for health care budgets.

And it was my job to go out and say, hey, we need to get your budgets ready because we're going to see some drugs coming into the Canadian system that in the U.S. they're talking about curative.

We want to have those treatments available because that's all we had in melanoma.

So I needed to make sure, firstly, the melanoma patients were going to get access to those.

And we built a melanoma task force of physicians that early back then were maybe 10 deep.
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