Aug 17, 2026 · 52 min · 13 segments
In this episode, we conclude our book study on Friendship in the Lord and welcome Fr. John Burns, Founder of Friends of the Bridegroom, to the podcast. We reflect on…
Miriam James HeidlandHostHeather KhymHostMichelle BenzingerHostAnd so as I've been reading through it, I was just saying to you guys before we started that, like, uh, everything's underlined.
I'm like, "What's not underlined in this book?" It's just been so incredibly rich.
And I think just reframing some things, but also, yeah, his deep wisdom, and I love the balance that he brings to things.
Like, he's saying two things at the same time, and I think that that's probably the hardest place for most of us to journey in, is like, it's not black or white, but how can we hold the tension between two things and grow in maturity? So I've just really loved it.
I- I'm just actually, I mean, we've mentioned this before, I'm amazed at his writing, how prolific and prophetic it is and the timing that he wrote it and how deep it is.
I mean, it is just a constant invitation to communion with the Trinity and communion with one another.
But like you were saying, Heather, they're not contrary to one another.
They're complementary to one another, and that is actually the only way to live, with that complementary relationship with both, and that brings the fullness of life, or like what he talks about in these two chapters, the fullness of joy.
And I think sometimes we think that it needs to be one or the other, but it's actually, uh, the fullness of life.
He brings out an invitation about the fullness of life, and that is living both really well, and it's not easy to live both either [laughs] well, either.
I, I've really, I've really enjoyed read- rereading this a lot, and it's just such, it's full of such wisdom.
It reminds me of reading Father Jacques Philippe when you, like you were saying, you underline everything, and just what I remembered, what is new to me now reading this so many years later again, and the things that I need to hear today.
But also, it's, it's such a message of hope, and it just made my heart long for heaven.
I think that's what the best things do, is they point us toward what is eternal, what is eschatological.
So I, I, I can easily say that this book has and continues to do so, to still do that for me.
And so as I've been reading through it, I was just saying to you guys before we started that, like, uh, everything's underlined.
I'm like, "What's not underlined in this book?" It's just been so incredibly rich.
And I think just reframing some things, but also, yeah, his deep wisdom, and I love the balance that he brings to things.
Like, he's saying two things at the same time, and I think that that's probably the hardest place for most of us to journey in, is like, it's not black or white, but how can we hold the tension between two things and grow in maturity? So I've just really loved it.
I- I'm just actually, I mean, we've mentioned this before, I'm amazed at his writing, how prolific and prophetic it is and the timing that he wrote it and how deep it is.
I mean, it is just a constant invitation to communion with the Trinity and communion with one another.
But like you were saying, Heather, they're not contrary to one another.
They're complementary to one another, and that is actually the only way to live, with that complementary relationship with both, and that brings the fullness of life, or like what he talks about in these two chapters, the fullness of joy.
And I think sometimes we think that it needs to be one or the other, but it's actually, uh, the fullness of life.
He brings out an invitation about the fullness of life, and that is living both really well, and it's not easy to live both either [laughs] well, either.
I, I've really, I've really enjoyed read- rereading this a lot, and it's just such, it's full of such wisdom.
It reminds me of reading Father Jacques Philippe when you, like you were saying, you underline everything, and just what I remembered, what is new to me now reading this so many years later again, and the things that I need to hear today.
But also, it's, it's such a message of hope, and it just made my heart long for heaven.
I think that's what the best things do, is they point us toward what is eternal, what is eschatological.
So I, I, I can easily say that this book has and continues to do so, to still do that for me.
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