What Is the Voice in Your Head Costing You? | The Inner Game Podcast
Oct 3, 2026 · 1 hr 20 min · 12 segments
Every great performer has a moment they almost lost to their own head. On The Inner Game Podcast, we take them back to it and get the exact words that were running through their mind. Subscribe so…
George MumfordGuest
Brian JohnsonGuestYou start listening when you're wanting to know something.
When you think you know it all, then listening becomes a little harder.
Then you're just thinking, "Do I agree with this? Don't I agree with this? Does this person have the same idea or a different idea than I have?" You know, the question is what do you really want? Because whatever you think you want, you want a car, you want a new house, you say, "Well, why do you want that?" Well, um, God, it would feel great to be in that.
So you wanna feel great.
Or I'd feel secure.
So you wanna feel secure.
What do you wanna feel secure for? Well, so I can be content or so I can be at peace.
You just ask a couple of what fors, and you get down quickly to the root of I wanna be happy.
Whatever the word you use.
I want something that's basic that I wanted as a child and I still want.
And if when you look in that mirror, you see the fulfillment to your thirst, then you'll know that what I gave you, he said, was pure water.
If it's doesn't fulfill your thirst, then you'll know that what I gave you was not pure water or that you were not really thirsty.
So he said, "Aha, it's empirical.
This, this isn't a, this isn't a philosophy to believe in.
This is something I can test, I can validate within myself."
Anyone have a reaction to that? Brian, I'm looking str- I'm staring, staring straight at you.
What, what-
Yeah.
[laughs]

I'm, I, I'm sitting here, you know, just so inspired to be here and to, uh, to hear their wisdom.
Yeah.

I watched that and I felt Joseph Campbell in his Bill Moyers interview and that-
You start listening when you're wanting to know something.
When you think you know it all, then listening becomes a little harder.
Then you're just thinking, "Do I agree with this? Don't I agree with this? Does this person have the same idea or a different idea than I have?" You know, the question is what do you really want? Because whatever you think you want, you want a car, you want a new house, you say, "Well, why do you want that?" Well, um, God, it would feel great to be in that.
So you wanna feel great.
Or I'd feel secure.
So you wanna feel secure.
What do you wanna feel secure for? Well, so I can be content or so I can be at peace.
You just ask a couple of what fors, and you get down quickly to the root of I wanna be happy.
Whatever the word you use.
I want something that's basic that I wanted as a child and I still want.
And if when you look in that mirror, you see the fulfillment to your thirst, then you'll know that what I gave you, he said, was pure water.
If it's doesn't fulfill your thirst, then you'll know that what I gave you was not pure water or that you were not really thirsty.
So he said, "Aha, it's empirical.
This, this isn't a, this isn't a philosophy to believe in.
This is something I can test, I can validate within myself."
Anyone have a reaction to that? Brian, I'm looking str- I'm staring, staring straight at you.
What, what-
Yeah.
[laughs]

I'm, I, I'm sitting here, you know, just so inspired to be here and to, uh, to hear their wisdom.
Yeah.

I watched that and I felt Joseph Campbell in his Bill Moyers interview and that-
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