Bob Bowman

We've already seen him kind of be mortal, and we've already seen him be conservative with the time and energy he's putting into certain competitions.

I think that's a pro move, and I think that's definitely a Bowman-inspired move.

But it's also like, oh, you're not young enough to where you can just like swim fast at every meet now.

Like this isn't the NCAA where he's breaking NCAA records at a dual meet.

And I think what McLean did really well, again, looking from afar, she seemed to create constraints or protective things to make sure that she didn't make the same mistake twice.

Meaning the coaches and support around her kind of adopt the same definition of success.

So the structure around her changed as well to make sure it aligns with her goals.

In terms of like her staying patient, I mean, to your earlier point about staying in touch with the leaders, but still having a little bit of gap there and just staying there instead of dropping off.

How do you coach coaches? athletes through that stretch, say from mile 15 to 23.

How do you coach someone through that dead period where it's like, I'm physically in a lot of pain.

I'm so close to giving up.

And you're allowed to just free yourself and go up and perform.

But yeah, a lot's been happening in the swimming world.

Tom, is there anything that sort of caught your eye? I know that one of the, probably the most well-known coach in swimming, well, definitely, Bob Bowman, maybe even in all sports, has gone on Instagram and he's creating a lot of content.

Yeah, he's done one of those masterclass series, isn't he? So fair play.

I mean, he's got kind of a depth of knowledge, but I think the headlines are going to be, you know, I batter my swimmers and they can make some swim bloody quick.

On to our next topic.

We have Bob Bowman's and social media.

This is an interesting one.

And honestly, having interviewed... who we just interviewed, Thomas.

All right.

So what do you think about this, Elvis?

yeah i just let the people know what it is first and then let us yeah you just went on to the topic uh yeah one day i woke up and scrolling through tiktok and i see you know the legendary coach bob bowman pop up on my tiktok i'm like oh i didn't know i didn't know we had a bob talk this is new is that cool then i'm scrolling through instagram and boom we got bob graham like oh He hasn't posted in a while.

And this looks legit.

Welcome back to another Heroic Plus One.

A couple Saturdays ago, I had the opportunity to join a roundtable podcast discussion with George Mumford and Bob Bowman.

As you may know, George Mumford was the guy Phil Jackson brought in to the Bulls and to the Lakers to teach guys like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant how to take their mindfulness and mental toughness games to the next level.

He wrote two great books, The Mindful Athlete and Unlocked.

Check out the notes.

Bob Bowman, as you may know, coached a guy named Michael Phelps.

Phelps is the greatest Olympian in history.

He won more gold medals than 150 countries.

Yeah.

In Lada's case, I think at that time she was training in the United States with Bob Bowman, which was turned out to be very expensive training modality for her.

And I think that's probably why she was struggling.

Can I maybe sort of start to bring this to a close with this? I mean, as you pointed out very many times, this is a political problem.

On our podcast, I get to talk to the best coaches in the world.

Bob Bowman, George Mumford.

I can't wait to hear it.

Pete Carroll's episode that comes out next week.

So in each part of the, so in the first episode you asked about coaching, That's part of it.

It kind of happens at the end.

But the conversation between Bob Bowman, George Mumford and Brian Johnson is a fabulous one that I didn't think I was going to want to watch because I was like I was there and, you know, I don't want to watch this.

And I, you know, I have another I have other stuff to do with my hour and 20 minutes.