‘Summer House’ Catch-up and Knicks Fever

[upbeat music] Hello, and welcome to We're Obsessed, a pop culture conversation podcast here on The Ringer Podcast Network.

I'm Jody Walker.

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And I'm Nora Princiotti.

Nora, it's a Friday episode.

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It's a Friday episode, our first.

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So exciting.

We have those now.

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We have those now.

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Jody, I'm really enjoying this week in LA with you.

I am enjoying it, uh, but Nora, I'm gonna be honest.

We've tied one on a little.

[laughs]

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What does that...

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I actually don't know what that means.

Uh, it means that we've had some drinks.

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Oh, yeah.

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We've been socializing.

We have been socializing.

We have been celebrating.

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We've been closing down establishments-

We-

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... is ultimately what we've been doing.

We, we really, I mean, I've, I've shut down a lot of restaurants.

You and I are both lovers of long meals.

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A long dinner.

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We both love a long dinner.

And I learned at your wedding that that is, like, a thing that brought you and your husband together.

You love long meals.

You, you had a very long meal at your wedding.

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Yes.

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No, we, we had...

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We expressly added a pasta course to the dinner so that the dinner would, in fact, be longer.

And to maybe soak up a little bit of that open bar.

I was-

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Yep

... carbo-loading, for sure.

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Yep.

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No, I didn't.

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Right after our ceremony, we went upstairs, and my gorgeous, beautiful, wonderful wedding planner, Jove Meyer, had laid out, um, an assortment of passed apps for us.

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So we ate a little bit there.

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But then at the table, 'cause we were getting up and walking around, and also 'cause I was just so hyped, the only thing I ate was that bowl of pasta.

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Y- [laughs] and it, it went down real easy.

Yeah.

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But-

Oh, I was shoveling her into my gullet

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...

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it, it was so good.

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S- needless to say, I've shut down a lot of restaurants in my day.

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Almost every one, I'm always the last reservation, arriving late, shutting it down.

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I've never had the overhead lights turned up three different levels on me-

[laughs]

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... which is what we got on Tuesday.

It was also, we had a 7:15 reservation.

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And we were there till 11:30.

Uh, 11:30, and they did, um...

We were at a wonderful restaurant called Barre Toile in Los Angeles that I wanted to go to the last time that I was here, and it didn't work out for whatever set of reasons.

Jody and I wanted to celebrate the feed, twice a week, all the stuff that's happening with this pod, which we're so excited about.

And so we went and we had a glorious dinner, and it was great.

Highly recommend.

And we did, um, I don't wanna say we overstayed our welcome, but they signaled to us that it was, in fact, time to go.

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I mean, when they're, like, really begging for the plates back 'cause the dishwasher's about to leave-

[laughs]

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... it's time to go.

[laughs] It's time to go.

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It's time to go.

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And I thought that we were done at that point, maybe with, like, our rabble-rousing and our socializing, but no.

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Last night we saw separate colleagues and friends, and then we came back together for the Knicks win, which we'll get to.

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Two big things happening in culture right now that everyone's been waiting for.

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Two big series.

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The NBA finals and the three-part Summer House reunion, and that's what we're talking about.

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Baby-

Summer House in three, Knicks in five.

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[laughs] Uh, Knicks in five.

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Nothing's happening in four, turns out.

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Um, but of course we should plug.

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We are twice a week now.

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Please like us.

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Please like me.

Please.

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How...

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I'm, like, I really wanna say Please clap, Jeb Bush, but I'm like, how many white, like, early aughts politicians can I quote on this podcast?

It really is...

It, it's funny because, like, I think of myself as kind of holding a lot of those specific reference points kind of strangely, not dear, but present in my imagination.

And the fact that you do as well.

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It's so weird.

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I think it's like that thing where the music you're most attached to is, like, what you listened to in high school.

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Or there, like, there's some statistic-

Yeah

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... it's like that's the music-

Yeah

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... th- and I think maybe the politicians that stick with you are the ones in your first election.

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I-

[laughs] Right

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... like maybe second election.

[laughs]

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But please clap, you know? [laughs]

Please clap.

Please clap.

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And Nora, there's a, there's a bullet point in this outline that I really need to get to.

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Call 1-800-526-7736 to learn more, or visit tremfyaradio.com. [upbeat music] On, uh, Wednesday night I would lightly say we watched game five, game four of, uh, the NBA finals where the Knicks made a historic 29-point finals comeback to beat the Spurs 107 to 106.

Good job.

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Thank you.

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I wrote that down.

Great job.

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I wrote down those, those, um, notes.

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Uh, I did arrive at the end of the game.

[laughs] I don't mean to put you on blast, but I think you arrived after the game.

[laughs]

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Yeah, yeah.

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The end of, you know, the end of the g- the very end, like, after it had ended.

Yeah.

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Like, when they'd turned the lights up three times.

Yeah.

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I was seeing another, um, you know, culture colleague, another non-sports colleague.

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And I was planning to come and meet you guys, but, uh, in the way that this game went, you texted me and w- I was like, "Where are you?" You texted me, you were like, "I'd ask you if y'all were gonna stay a while."

Well, you were like, "How long are you gonna stay?" And I was like, "Well, it's," you know, "it's, it's the first," or "it's the second quarter," or whatever, "but like, the Knicks are getting absolutely demolished."

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Demolished is the word you used.

"So, like, I wonder if maybe we won't stay." Not as...

Like, we were gonna stay till the end, but I was like, if they get absolutely demolished, people might scatter pretty quickly.

Um, and then the Knicks mounted, uh, the most impressive comeback in N- NBA finals history.

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An historic comeback.

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I, when I arrived at, at the bar at, again, the end of the end of the game, uh, I, I found this-

High Tops and Los Felas.

Great bar.

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Great bar.

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I found the sweatiest people I've ever seen in my life.

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[laughs]

[laughs] What do you mean?

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I was like-

That's something that you don't understand [laughs] about-

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I didn't, I did not un- I, because I didn't know about the 29-point comeback at that point.

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I knew they were being demolished and that something had happened.

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And when I arrived, everyone was a, everyone looked like Mariska Hargitay.

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Ma- Ma- how do you say her name?

Hargitay.

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Hargitay.

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Everyone looked like that, how she looked at the end of the Knicks game.

Everybody had been screaming and jumping up and down.

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And like, hair was a, I mean everyone looked great, but like, hair akimbo, clothes a s- like, strewn about.

Somebody had a very small dog wearing a Knicks jersey and was lifting it up in the air.

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There were Simba lifts happening.

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I just, and, and then I-

Our friend Rachel spilled a whole beer everywhere.

Like, it-

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Iconic behavior.

Yes.

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Um-

It needed to happen

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...

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I just kinda had to cobble together like, "What has happened here?" And a, and apparently a really huge thing.

It was really exciting.

It was a great game.

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Um, I then was able to go home and cobble together all of the things that had happened within the game celebrity-wise.

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Any favorites? 'Cause I've got a few.

I mean, first of all, it just like, I was really, I was concerned that when Trump went to game three, that like, there just, a vibe shift had occurred and nothing good was ever gonna happen again.

And whoever went and saged the garden, thank you, because it worked.

Uh, I really enjoyed the presence of Taylor Swift and two out of three Haim sisters-

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Mm-hmm

...

in their Knicks pun baby tees.

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There's this thing that Taylor Swift does where she makes, like, she manages to bring homecoming spirit week of high school-

Yes, yes

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... to, like, every event.

Yeah.

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She literally was wearing a fishtail braid.

Yes.

[laughs]

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It's coming back.

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With a ribbon in her hair.

[laughs] Although, in fairness, Taylor Swift has been intermittently wearing a fishtail braid since the mid-2000s.

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The fishtail felt fresh.

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One of the things I'm prouder of in my life is that I can do a fishtail braid.

You can do a fishtail braid?

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Not on my own hair, it won't work, but on other people's hair.

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[laughs]

That's, I'm gonna, I, I, that's noted.

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I could do it, [laughs] I could do it to your hair right now.

That's noted.

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The Haim sisters and Taylor Swift are, like, wealthy enough to execute very last-minute a professional tee, but it feels like what in high school you would have ironed the letters onto to make your Stevie Nicks or your Nickelback or your, what was the other one?

Nicole Kidman.

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Nicole Kidman [laughs] pun shirt.

Nicole Kidman.

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Um, and do you think that the third Haim didn't come just 'cause they were out of puns?

Maybe, but it's also, it's Danielle and she's gotta kinda do all the work.

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She does.

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She's busy.

She's gotta get in that studio.

She's gotta write some songs.

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Busy being a sensitive artist.

I mean, she also might have, there was a little bit of, um, there was a little bit of consternation online about the fact that the, the Haim sisters are, they're a pretty outwardly LA band and LA institution.

Um, I myself was not bothered by, by accusations of stolen valor, but I see where people are coming from with that, and perhaps Danielle felt that it actually wasn't her space.

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But in the same way that Ben Stiller burned his clothes that he wore to game three, it's like, well now they have to come.

Yes.

Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

Jordan's gotta wear the, her bag.

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Yes.

Um, Taylor Swift is gonna have to be there.

I mean, I think that the vibe shift probably came from the Wu-Tang Clan and not Taylor Swift precisely, and yet it all has to come back together.

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[laughs] I think it was that guy with the sage outside.

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I think it was that guy at the bar with the dog.

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Um, the, the, like, the memes that I am most obsessed with are of Mariska Hargitay.

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I'm saying it right now.

Yeah.

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Mariska Hargitay.

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Um-

I also don't think that's one that people really dock you for kinda muddling through it.

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There are surprising K's and G's.

Yeah.

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But I'm doing, I mean, I do think of her as Olivia Benson.

Yeah, well, um, namesake of sh- one of Taylor Swift's cats.

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And, and Taylor Swift w- sure was shaking her around like she was a cat.

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Like, she was lifting her off the ground, kinda playing with her, pawing at her.

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Um, but she, she came from doing two shows on Broadway, a, a matinee-

Loves Midtown

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... loves Midtown.

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Makes it to the game, changes a shirt, changes into a shirt that a Haim sister gave her.

Yes.

Or, I feel like Taylor.

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You feel like Taylor?

You know what? I, I-

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I just felt like the Haim sisters made them, but maybe I have that wrong.

[laughs] You just imagine them crafting?

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Yeah.

[laughs] I imagine Taylor crafting.

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They were like, "We'll go if we can do tees."

"We'll j- we'll go if we can do a little-"

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She, she changes-

"... shaky paj"

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... her shirt and then manages to, uh...

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I mean, she just, like, kind of becomes the face of the game.

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At the end, like, she was a mess.

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She was exhausted.

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It was like she'd played-

I mean, she's a real one.

Like, she's real

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... she's got, she's got a lot of game.

Best friends with Jalen Brunson.

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Yeah.

They're-

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Yeah

... best friends.

[laughs]

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Yeah.

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Um, I just loved it.

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I also loved, uh, Fat Joe doing the Humpty Dumpty dance, uh, to throw Wemby off his game during, during the free throws.

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And of course, uh, any, any Timmy content post-Knicks game is both welcome and I watch it on mute.

[laughs]

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'Cause, like, there are only...

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I'm already dealing with Summer House and, like, those bros-

Yeah

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... and then having him be like, "Let's fucking go!"

Yeah.

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It's-

Wearing head-to-toe chrome hearts.

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[laughs] But I do enjoy watching Kylie Jenner just, like, shake her head lovingly.

Did you see that Kylie and Taylor hugged?

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No.

Kylie and Taylor hugged.

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Hoo.

There's photo evidence of the two of them seeing each other courtside, going in for a hug, sharing a hug, and, like, a, "Hi, how are you? That was crazy."

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It just does feel like they don't exist in the same universe.

The Knicks are gonna bring about world peace, I think.

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Maybe so.

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I'm having a good time.

Probably not.

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You're probably not, no. Um, but it was a good time.

It was really fun.

Knicks in five.

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Knicks in five.

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The way that people just moved on from Knicks in four to Knicks in five-

[laughs]

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... feels very relatable to me.

Um, okay.

I do think, though, that if the Knicks, if the Knicks win the finals in five, and the one game they lost was the one that Trump went to, that actually should go down in record books as a sweep.

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That's a sweep.

That's a sweep in the NBA finals.

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Do it, do it for the people.

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Like, what's crazy is that there are people at that game who paid upwards of $100,000 to be there, and they kind of made a good investment.

Yeah.

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Like- [laughs]

Yeah

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...

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they got the game they-

Yeah

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...

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they got the game they paid for.

Yeah.

That last shot is nuts.

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But you know what's crazy? There's also probably at least a couple people who paid that kind of money for tickets and they left before the end of the game.

N- no.

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I bet there are.

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I bet there are a few.

If I paid $100,000, well, for anything, I, I would live in that stadium now.

I would have brought a sleeping bag.

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[laughs]

That's, you know, the next several years' rent.

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If you do it, you can't...

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Like, that has to be your shame for the rest of your life.

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You can't tell people.

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You have to carry that as a secret.

I would be like Tom Hanks in that movie where he lives in an airport.

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Yeah.

Like, I, I, I would not be leaving.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You know, you actually have to, like, abdicate your role in society.

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[laughs]

I would be making that my whole thing.

I- that actually has really upset me that you said that.

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I know.

I can't-

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Let me s- I'm gonna, I'm, let me try out another take on you.

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This has nothing to do with it.

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This is different.

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Um-

You're just trying to upset me now? [laughs]

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No, no.

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I think this one actually is, is positive.

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Uh, something I've been trying to make catch on is that I think Wemby is the Dua Lipa of basketball.

[laughs] Yeah.

No-

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Talented, European.

Surprisingly intellectual.

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Yeah, a real intellectual.

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In the way-

Got that key to Gramercy Park and was just drawing

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I know.

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In the way that-

Just drawing in Gramercy Park

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... every once in a while you're like, "Oh yeah, Dua Lipa has a book club and a podcast that are really good." And then you're like, "Oh, Wemby is painting in Gramercy Park."

Yeah, he's the Dua Lipa of basketball.

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The sister.

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She's tall.

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He's tall.

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The notes are all there.

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What do you think we do with this information?

I just, I just am gonna say it intermittently-

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Okay

... and feel good about it.

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Just gonna track it.

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He might get, he might get married eventually, and we can just keep our eye on that.

And I bet it would be chic and fun.

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I'm sure.

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He's, he's very chic.

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Um, anything else about that Knicks win?

I had a great time.

[sniffs] I really had a great time.

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I had a less good time this morning, I'll be honest.

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[laughs]

Yeah.

Yeah.

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Two night, two nights of-

Well, and then we've been-

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... school night socializing

... hanging out for, like, several hours, I think, after the game.

So we've really brought this on ourselves, but it's fine.

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We accomplished a lot.

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We talked about, I confessed to my affliction of four blonde men, and then made everyone else-

Oh, yeah

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... say their afflictions.

We got a, we, we, um, we got another canon introspective question, which is, what is your dating or romantic affliction?

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Mm-hmm.

Uh, and that was, that was a good one.

We'll save that for a future episode-

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It's another time

...

but it's really good fodder.

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It's another time because we do, we, we gotta get to the big one, which is that I've been waiting to talk about Summer House again until it concluded the three-part reunion, until you came back.

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Nora, you bring an interesting perspective, which is that you don't know what the hell is going on.

That I know nothing.

[laughs]

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You do not know what is going on, and yet you have a ton of questions.

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You've watched all three parts of the reunion-

Yeah

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... without any prior watching of Summer House.

Literally, I'd never laid eyes on many of these people.

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Any, any thoughts on what they looked like? [laughs]

Wes? Bad.

Worse than I could have imagined.

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I sent you a TikTok of an older woman off camera, like the teachers in Peanuts-

[laughs]

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... with a heavy-

Somebody's mom

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... like, New York accent that sounded to me exactly like you sounded when we were talking about this at dinner.

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And she's just like, "Him? This, these beautiful girls?"

girls?"... to our girls.

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What are we doing to our girls?

No, it really, it actually made me, it made me angry.

Nora PrinciottiHost18:15

You've been having a pretty tough time with that, and he is an adult male blonde, but it's not for me.

He looks like the Keebler Elf.

Nora PrinciottiHost18:22

Okay.

He looks like the Keebler Elf with his little butt hole lips being like...

Nora PrinciottiHost18:25

Well, we d- the, we gotta talk about the lips.

Nora PrinciottiHost18:28

I'm trying to, I'm trying to think of, like, how to, uh...

Nora PrinciottiHost18:32

This is my impression of West.

Nora PrinciottiHost18:35

[laughs]

But you gotta bite 'em more.

Nora PrinciottiHost18:41

That's actually really good.

Nora PrinciottiHost18:43

That looks deadass like him.

Nora PrinciottiHost18:45

[laughs]

That's offensive.

Nora PrinciottiHost18:47

Sorry.

Nora PrinciottiHost18:48

[laughs] You have practiced a lot.

Even though I'm trying.

Nora PrinciottiHost18:50

You did it for a lot of dinner, that dinner where we stayed way too long-

I can't look

Nora PrinciottiHost18:54

... it's because you were doing that a lot.

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost18:56

Trying to, like, get it just right.

Yes.

Gearing up for the pod.

Nora PrinciottiHost19:01

Um, I want to talk about basically, like, some new sentences that came out of the Summer House reunion that I had never heard before, and then also some that are kinda like tale as old as time in f- terms of West and how he's, uh, treating his relationships.

Nora PrinciottiHost19:26

[laughs]

Can I say one more thing?

Nora PrinciottiHost19:27

No, I w- I, but I want to open the floor to you for any, um, questions you have, what you were surprised by, like, how you've taken in this reunion.

Oh, well, let's, I wanna do your-

Nora PrinciottiHost19:37

And this whole situation

...

I wanna do your, um, your sentences and stuff because I think that's, like, content based, and then if whatever's left, I'll make sure that I ask my questions.

I just wanna say one thing because it's not really, it doesn't, like, feed into the story or the narrative or whatever.

It's just a, it's just something that was part of my experience that I wanna make clear.

Nora PrinciottiHost19:56

Mm-hmm.

Carl is the sweetest boy I've ever laid eyes on.

Carl is adorable.

Carl is a, Carl is a beacon of light in an otherwise pretty hopeless seeming place.

I loved Carl.

Nora PrinciottiHost20:07

Sasha, please roll Nora's prior clips of talking about Carl.

Nora PrinciottiHost20:12

[laughs]

Okay, all I said was, "Who's Carl?" And now I know.

Nora PrinciottiHost20:15

You said-

I said, "What does Carl have to do with this?"

Nora PrinciottiHost20:19

Exactly, and-

That's a compliment

Nora PrinciottiHost20:21

...

Nora PrinciottiHost20:21

I said-

Who wants to be a part of this mess?

Nora PrinciottiHost20:22

I said everything.

Nora PrinciottiHost20:24

Car- Carl was...

Nora PrinciottiHost20:26

We all know that Carl was a mess.

Nora PrinciottiHost20:28

That has been, that has come across loud and clear-

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost20:31

... that Carl was a mess.

Nora PrinciottiHost20:32

Carl more than anyone else, a, Carl and Lindsay, I would say, he pulled himself together for this reunion.

Nora PrinciottiHost20:40

He put on that-

He's a beacon of light

Nora PrinciottiHost20:41

...

Nora PrinciottiHost20:41

he put on that mint green blazer.

His pants are too short.

His...

Nora PrinciottiHost20:46

I told you, he has a real problem with pants.

His, he's got, his pants too short.

Nora PrinciottiHost20:51

I feel like I never get shoes right as a...

Nora PrinciottiHost20:54

I struggle with shoes, uh, despite con- your constant sandal conversation.

Nora PrinciottiHost20:59

Like, I'm just, it's just-

I don't think you struggle with shoes

Nora PrinciottiHost21:00

... it's not my best.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:01

Like, I'm just, I just, I'm never, I'm never quite getting it right.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:05

Carl is never getting pants right.

Yeah.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:08

He used to wear these really tight white pants.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:11

Now they're always-

It's kind of when he was-

Nora PrinciottiHost21:13

... too short.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:14

I love-

But they also seemed tight.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:16

They are tight.

He was sitting, so it wasn't that, but it just, yeah, that was a l-

Nora PrinciottiHost21:19

He's a millennial.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:20

He's-

It was solidly six inches of ankle they ...

That.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:23

Well, and a- as I really loved when Lindsay said to Carl and Jesse, like, "You're both 6'5", why do you look so different right now?" Because Jesse was sitting so much shorter because, as she said-

Carl has a long torso

Nora PrinciottiHost21:36

... long torso.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:38

Just like me.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:38

Long torso representation for you.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:40

Is that why you've come around? You saw how long his torso was?

I felt seen.

Yeah, it, representation really matters.

No, I, I liked his mint green even though I thought his pants were crazy, and he just was such a sweet boy.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:49

Let me tell you this about Carl.

Nora PrinciottiHost21:51

Like, no person in the reality TV universe, and I do not just mean Bravo, like, I really think no person we or I have watched over the course of reality TV [laughs] has grown to the extent that Carl has.

Nora PrinciottiHost22:09

Like-

It seems like it's been really good for him, which is crazy.

Nora PrinciottiHost22:12

It has been good for him.

Nora PrinciottiHost22:13

I really think it's, like, good for people to watch.

Nora PrinciottiHost22:16

I mean, you would've had to make basically a, an eight-year investment in Summer House, which I have made.

Nora PrinciottiHost22:21

But I f- you said beacon of hope.

Nora PrinciottiHost22:23

Like, I feel like Carl, and I, I really feel like I, I so rarely feel this about celebrities or reality celebrities.

Nora PrinciottiHost22:31

I feel like I can say this about him and it will not come back to haunt me at this point, because he has done so much work.

Nora PrinciottiHost22:36

Like, he stands as representation of, like, the way that men, like straight men, could be capable of turning toxic masculinity around-

Yeah

Nora PrinciottiHost22:50

...

Nora PrinciottiHost22:50

if they put in 10 years' worth of work [laughs] doing it.

Nora PrinciottiHost22:55

We might be able to change the world.

Nora PrinciottiHost22:57

I, no, I, I really, watching it, was thinking to myself, Carl, if you're looking for, like, I have some, I got some hot single girlfriends, Ca- uh, Carl.

Nora PrinciottiHost23:05

And, you know, I'm sure that Carl could, like, still really be capable of mistreating a woman.

Nora PrinciottiHost23:10

But in, but, like, but-

But I believe that he wouldn't

Nora PrinciottiHost23:12

... because he's, yes, because he, he-

Under two and a half hours.

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost23:16

Well, you get it.

Nora PrinciottiHost23:17

You get it now.

Nora PrinciottiHost23:18

He has turned his life around, and even, like, watching him at this reunion, which was pretty different than sort of he may have been at the last couple of reunions even though he was sober, doing the work, like, you can really tell about him now that he understands, he's worked so hard to underst- understand himself and overcome his demons.

Nora PrinciottiHost23:40

And when you do that, when you are actually introspective and attempt to understand yourself so that you can treat yourself and other people better, it makes you innately empathetic.

Nora PrinciottiHost23:52

And the way that he is able to, like, see humanity is so different than almost anyone else out there, but definitely in contrast to what Kyle, or sorry, what West...

Nora PrinciottiHost24:08

I'm doing lip stuff.

Nora PrinciottiHost24:10

And, uh, Amanda.

Nora PrinciottiHost24:12

Now I'll do Amanda ... are up to.

Nora PrinciottiHost24:16

The, the absolute thousand-yard stare.

Nora PrinciottiHost24:20

So like, I really appreciated Carl's grounding presence, and then whatever the opposite of grounding is that Lindsay was doing.

Nora PrinciottiHost24:29

Um-

[laughs] She's a real trip, isn't she?

Nora PrinciottiHost24:31

She is a stick of TNT.

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost24:34

She has- she's a real trip.

She [laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost24:38

When she finally got her ass go- I mean, one of my favorite moments, like, of any reunion or Bravo is that we are in the final part of part three of the reunion.

Nora PrinciottiHost24:50

They are all exhausted.

Nora PrinciottiHost24:53

They're hard getting it.

Nora PrinciottiHost24:54

Like, they're-

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost24:55

... kind of a mess.

Nora PrinciottiHost24:56

They have literally been there for 10 hours under lights.

Nora PrinciottiHost24:59

She goes, sits back down with a wine glass full of something.

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost25:03

I don't know if it was wine or water, and she said, "Andy, I don't feel like we've gotten anything done."

[laughs] She wanted to switch seats with Andy.

Nora PrinciottiHost25:12

And she should have.

Nora PrinciottiHost25:13

I mean, I, I-

This is one of my questions for you, is like, how much do you think that Andy had his hands on the reins?

Nora PrinciottiHost25:20

I think pretty well, actually.

Nora PrinciottiHost25:22

I do think, and especially in comparison to some reunions of other past shows where, like, Andy just hasn't gotten it right.

Nora PrinciottiHost25:29

He hasn't asked the right questions.

Nora PrinciottiHost25:30

He hasn't pushed hard enough.

Nora PrinciottiHost25:32

He pushed pretty hard in this situation to keep things under control and to, like, prevent people who are much better at talking from talking too much so that Amanda and West never had to account for anything, which is exactly what they were trying to do.

Nora PrinciottiHost25:53

Like, they were trying to be so blank and so non-committal that they couldn't have possibly said anything that they could have had to account for later because they were lying about a lot of stuff.

Right.

Nora PrinciottiHost26:06

And it was, like, pretty...

Nora PrinciottiHost26:08

I don't know if I wanna say good obfuscation, 'cause it was so dead-eyed, but I, I mean, my, my favorite-

Well, I mean, like, they bo-

Nora PrinciottiHost26:17

Sorry.

Nora PrinciottiHost26:17

No.

No, no.

Nora PrinciottiHost26:17

We'll, we'll get to this.

Nora PrinciottiHost26:18

Keep going.

Nora PrinciottiHost26:19

No, I was...

Nora PrinciottiHost26:19

My- I mean, it, it brings me to probably my favorite new sentence of-

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost26:26

... of the reunion, in part because I, too, have started saying, "No offense," a lot [laughs]

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost26:35

In both ironic ways and real ways.

Nora PrinciottiHost26:38

It is, like, the funniest way to introduce a sentence sometimes.

Nora PrinciottiHost26:41

And Andy's, like, real exasperation when he said, "Um, no offense.

Nora PrinciottiHost26:47

Are you on, like, a bunch of beta blockers?"

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost26:51

To West, who then blinked a bunch.

[laughs] Who blinked a bunch, as though he were having a slow motion experience of the world in front of him.

Nora PrinciottiHost27:02

I mean, um, no offense, but are you on, like, a b- I...

Nora PrinciottiHost27:06

That's never...

Nora PrinciottiHost27:06

Like, that was a level-

[laughs] It was amazing

Nora PrinciottiHost27:09

...

Nora PrinciottiHost27:09

I really enjoyed Andy's true vulnerability in that, like, he seemed flummoxed by them from beginning to end.

Nora PrinciottiHost27:19

I think I said this when Rachel and I talked about it, but, like, when he...

Nora PrinciottiHost27:23

In all these reunions, I'm sure you saw Andy does these, like, he goes from dressing room-

Yeah

Nora PrinciottiHost27:27

... to dressing room, has a little preliminary chat, and the whole time he was talking to West and Amanda in their joint dressing room, he was doing a lot of big blinks.

Nora PrinciottiHost27:35

He was like...

Nora PrinciottiHost27:36

No, he was freaked out by the vibe.

Nora PrinciottiHost27:38

He kept saying, "Y- y- you guys seem calm.

Nora PrinciottiHost27:41

Like, you shouldn't be calm."

Well-

Nora PrinciottiHost27:43

"You should be upset."

But they, I mean, a- and I've never had an experience...

Like, I, if...

I've watched...

My Bravo reunion special experience is some number of Housewives reunions, and that's basically it.

I've never...

And usually, that's an environment where people are actually, like, pretty...

If they're taking anything, it's usually uppers.

Nora PrinciottiHost28:02

Yeah.

Is at least the vibe.

Nora PrinciottiHost28:04

Yeah.

I've never had an experience of...

Th- it's like if you're taking a cat to the vet.

Nora PrinciottiHost28:09

I mean, during Scandoval for the Scandoval reunions, um, Raquel, Rachel was pretty, she was pretty zoned out, and it was a little hard to tell if it was, like, her disassociating or what, or what was going on.

Nora PrinciottiHost28:27

But within that, I would say she also managed to seem remorseful and defensive at separate times, which are, like, real human emotions that I can relate to and understand the impulse to have.

Nora PrinciottiHost28:47

Y- West more so than Amanda.

Nora PrinciottiHost28:48

Amanda seemed zonked out and disassociated and sh-

Well, Amanda, when...

There was one of the breaks when they went back into the dressing room, and Amanda went to sleep it looked like for a second.

Um, went to the-

Nora PrinciottiHost29:00

She got into the blanket

... she got in the blanket and she...

And you know, it was sort of like a a- everybody's yelling at me, I just wanna close my eyes to the world.

But I was also like, you're, you might, you might be physically falling asleep right now because you're not, you're not with us.

Nora PrinciottiHost29:15

Well, I thought you were gonna say the one I think in part two where she, uh, gets overwhelmed, and she's like, "I've just gotta take a break." I mean, she went backstage and took a bar of Xanax.

Yeah.

Nora PrinciottiHost29:29

Um, she, she came back and I, I guess I should say allegedly.

Nora PrinciottiHost29:36

That's my opinion.

Nora PrinciottiHost29:37

That's my opinion! [laughs]

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost29:39

That's a Bravo quote.

Nora PrinciottiHost29:42

She came back additionally zonked.

Yeah.

Nora PrinciottiHost29:46

And so Andy became additionally confused of like, what am I dealing with here?

What do I do with you?

Nora PrinciottiHost29:52

But West even more so than Amanda.

Nora PrinciottiHost29:57

The way he was, like, agreeing with everyone-

[laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost30:01

... that he's the worst, and, like, he was like, "I understand," you know?

You're right.

I'm a piece of shit.

Nora PrinciottiHost30:08

"The concern that I'm the worst possible person in the world, that she could take this kind of risk on." And then you're like, you expect him, and they all freak.

Nora PrinciottiHost30:17

You expect him to be like- But I really feel like this time is gonna be different because I'm committed to it, I got Carl's therapist's number, I'm...

Nora PrinciottiHost30:27

I love her

Even I like her.

They almost-

Nora PrinciottiHost30:31

This has been a, like, this is an ordeal and I brought it upon myself, but it's a wake-up call, and like, we're, you know, this obviously isn't good and it's making me rethink my behavior.

Nora PrinciottiHost30:39

Like, never.

I hope it'll be worth it.

Nora PrinciottiHost30:41

Like, they're, they, they don't say anything about their relationship with each other to each other for the entire reunion.

Nora PrinciottiHost30:51

Like-

Well, and West says-

Nora PrinciottiHost30:53

Like, I would love to count how many words and sentences he uttered that whole time, because it was almost nothing.

You're gonna have to watch his mouth again if you're gonna do that.

Nora PrinciottiHost31:02

I know.

Nora PrinciottiHost31:03

I don't wanna do it.

If you're gonna do that kind of work-

Nora PrinciottiHost31:04

I don't wanna do it

... for the people

Nora PrinciottiHost31:05

I don't, I don't like to watch his mouth.

Nora PrinciottiHost31:07

I...

Nora PrinciottiHost31:08

The way...

Nora PrinciottiHost31:09

Okay, well, a lot of the new sentences come from West, actually, which is so interesting because he spoke so little, but he s- he spoke like a, like a person you've never heard before.

Yeah.

Nora PrinciottiHost31:19

And this is going all the way back to part one.

Nora PrinciottiHost31:21

But much like when you were like, "I didn't talk about the horse," when Rachel and I logged off after we chatted about reunion part one, I was like, "I forgot the most important part.

Nora PrinciottiHost31:33

I don't think we talked about it," which is when West says about whether he and Sierra kissed on kind of the final episode.

Nora PrinciottiHost31:44

He said, "It was just, like, ear stuff."

[laughs] I couldn't believe this.

Nora PrinciottiHost31:50

Have you ever heard of ear stuff in your life?

No. [laughs]

Nora PrinciottiHost31:54

I mean, I, I guess I get it.

But-

Nora PrinciottiHost31:57

It's like I, I like a little ear play myself.

No, sure.

A little nibble, I think we've all probably found it pleasant a time or two.

Nora PrinciottiHost32:04

But to suggest that ear stuff could come alone? [laughs]

But, and also, like...

Right, that it would be ex- it would be exclusively ear stuff

Nora PrinciottiHost32:12

Only ear stuff

And it also...

Like, if we're no longer together, I don't wanna hear you talking about nibbling my ear or vice versa.

S-

Nora PrinciottiHost32:20

Especially when you're doing that much mouth stuff.

Nora PrinciottiHost32:22

I...

Nora PrinciottiHost32:22

Now I gotta think about that mouth on my ear.

That mouth on that ear.

No, it's, it's horrible, and it's...

If someone that you have disrespected and hurt, it should be awfu- like, it's just embarrassing.

It's so...

It's, it's...

We were having a conversation last night about how the word goofy is kind of devastating.

It's goofy.

It's goofy.

Ear stuff is goofy.

Nora PrinciottiHost32:44

Our friend Harry told us that there-

To be like, "I was sucking on your earlobe, and now I've hurt you"

Nora PrinciottiHost32:50

It is goofy, and I do think a lot...

Nora PrinciottiHost32:53

I mean, who's goofier than West? I think a lot could've been accomplished by everyone just saying, "You're being goofy.

Nora PrinciottiHost33:00

Stop acting," stop acting-

"You're being a goof"

Nora PrinciottiHost33:02

... goofy.

Cut it out.