Broadway theatre

done quite a bit of theater.

I'm sure he was on Broadway a few times.

I think he may have done some – he may have started in the park, like Shakespeare in the Park or

something.

Yeah, I think he's from upstate.

OK, so Neil Simon's Biloxi Blues.

He did that on Broadway in 85.

So 1985.

here we are of where we're at in the world.

So we're going to be talking about Charli D'Amelio, TikTok star turned Dancing with the Stars champion, turned dancer, turned Broadway star.

She's spoken for the first time about the rift in her famous family and kind of separating from her parents.

We're going to get into that because there's a lot to say.

Right? Yes.

I do enjoy her.

So she's done this profile, obviously, which is all about Charli D'Amelio, like her rise to fame, what she's doing now, what her life looks like now, because she obviously took a bit of a break and then she's also been on Broadway.

But obviously, given recent headlines, which you guys have discussed on The Spill, a lot of the article did focus on like what it's like to be a child in the spotlight and where her relationship stands now with her family.

Okay.

So, um, this off Broadway musical adaptation into a film was initially going to be executive produced by Steven Spielberg and directed by Martin Scorsese.

Initially, but it wasn't.

Okay.

Which was interesting.

Kind of like

if you knew about the Broadway production, you know, you knew it was a musical going in.

But

Everyone's like, yes, this is what we want to see because they want to see.

But if you get her in a stage production of Annie on Broadway, people are going to be like, no, wait a second.

She's not on her mark.

Like she's like, no, seriously, she's got to be on her mark.

Yeah.

But while you're in New York, too, I mean, I got to see you try to get on Broadway.

Yeah.

That is something that's, I mean, I've wanted to do Broadway my entire life.

I mean, I grew up as a theater kid, so it's been a dream of mine.

And now my main focus is now that Rocky Horror is back.

That's done with motors and computers that are controlling that.

And now we're in a situation where lighting on Broadway has become so much more sophisticated because everything is moving all of the time and that's all controlled by these AI systems.

It's pretty cool.

So I have the good fortune to see a lot of theater within my lifetime and also probably more movies.

And I feel the big screen experience wraps me differently into the story than to be on Broadway.

I've sat way back and I sit really forward.

I prefer because I like to see them sweat, but I feel the emotion carries differently.

Every producer will probably respond differently based on what the creative idea is.

He's trying to get plays mounted.

That was the big dream, is he wanted to write for Broadway, and it never happened in his lifetime.

But he was before...

I'm sorry to interrupt.

They were peers at one point and then took very different paths.

Yes.

Yeah, and Rod, he'd written all these great plays for television, but his feeling was always, Broadway is the pinnacle of what a writer can do.

I want to do my plays on Broadway.

go.

From Broadway to West End, TV presenter to actor, he'll go to the opening of a door.

Joel Creasey,

Desperation.

So yesterday, so yesterday, I'm just a bird that's on fire.

You've done so much, like you've been so successful.

Do you do that thing that I think we all do? Like, do you dream about that role that you know, like you could never do? Like, for example, for me, it'd be like, I want to play Elphaba in Wicked on Broadway.

Do you ever have those nights where you're like, imagine just one day if I could do that, I'd love to do that.

So that's a plus for this musical.

think for me it's the story itself that i i just have never gravitated towards um because it is centered around 9 11 and um like the original cast Definitely had like a diverse cast, not only in terms of ethnicity, but just also in what people looked like physically, which is great because I am so tired of seeing, you know, that Broadway perfection thing when it comes to physical bodies.

So, it has all of that, but I can remember when this musical was in its height, you know, there were articles and there were discussions about, you know, how are people going to do this on a regional level or maybe like a local level, I should say.

Are you going to be able to fill in the representation that it needs? And this is completely not rational, probably, but the point of view it's told from...